 mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY
| They won't give it up.. I know they won't give it up due to privacy invasion by giving up info they were promised by Verizon's TOS (verify me if i'm wrong?)
RIAA and co., you suck balls!
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| I would bet they give up the information now, the main reason they were fighting this was to force a court order absolving them of any liability which they now have |
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said by mrchris:
I know they won't give it up due to privacy invasion by giving up info they were promised by Verizon's TOS (verify me if i'm wrong?)
RIAA and co., you suck balls!
[text was edited by author 2003-04-24 19:04:12]
While the following privacy statement is not from Verizon, I suspect that all ISPs have much the same statement:
Although we make every reasonable effort to preserve your privacy as described in this Policy, we will disclose personally identifiable information about you without your consent when required by law in order to comply with a valid legal process such as a subpoena, court order, or search warrant, for example. We may also use or disclose personally identifiable information about you without your consent to protect our customers, employees, or property, in emergency situations, to enforce our rights in court or elsewhere, or directly with you, and for violations of the Service's terms of service and policies (including our Acceptable Use Policy).
This extract has been quoted from the Privacy Policy of Comcast. »www.comcast.net/privacy/index.jsp
The Privacy Policy of AOL/CompuServe also says the same thing in much fewer words:
CompuServe is legally obligated to provide any individual member information available if served with proper legal documentation in connection with law enforcement or legal action
While I have only picked the Privacy Statements of two Service Providers, I am sure that all other ISP Policies are the same. |
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| 18 USC 2515 forbids the use of information or data over a wire being used, without an order (warrant) for wire tap, IN ANY COURT OF LAW.
»townofdavie.com/usdoj_wiretap.html
and case precedent for revealing the identity of online users has been set by ACLU v. NJ
»www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=985
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This case WILL go to the Supreme Court....god help us all......I HOPE the internet & our rights STAY private and protected!!
Be well all........ |
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said by BellSouthBS:
18 USC 2515 forbids the use of information or data over a wire being used, without an order (warrant) for wire tap, IN ANY COURT OF LAW.
»townofdavie.com/usdoj_wiretap.html
and case precedent for revealing the identity of online users has been set by ACLU v. NJ
»www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=985
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Neither of these two references have anything to do with the matter at hand! The first reference relates to "wire taps". The second reference relates to the identities of people posting articles on a public bulletin board, who are not using their real names. The matter at hand does not involve either of these issues! There was no "wire tap" and no one posted to a public bulletin board without using their real name! The matter at hand simply involves a request to identify who was assigned a given IP address at a given time. Now true, once that information has been obtained it will most likely be used in other legal proceedings, and those legal proceedings may be subject to review or question. But for now the only matter is one of Verizon received a subpoena for information, which by law they were required to honor. The current judge was only enforcing the law related to the subpoena. Another court, another judge will be involved with the underlying issues that resulted in the subpoena being issued! |
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| reply to martissimo
Amen |
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