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amark

join:2001-02-09
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Program Better Than Window Washer?

Like Window Washer a lot. Seen many programs like Window Washer out there. Wondering if there is a product that is much better than this? Thanks.
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reiko2
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join:2001-05-16
Cleveland, OH

Lots of free programs/similar ones- Window Washer has worked for me. I'm sure you'll get plenty of suggestions. Just be sure to stay away from the one I bought before I knew better- a ways back- the evil Evidence Eliminator! Plenty to read about it - try a google search- but believe me- nasty people behind it and a bitch to un-install. Just my opinion, but hope that helps eliminate one choice for you- reiko2



heels_fan
1.20.09 The start of Socialism
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join:2003-02-07
Columbia, TN
kudos:1
reply to amark

Try system mechanic. It has alot of features. It has a 30 day trial but........
Anyways, it is a very nice little program.
»www.iolo.com/sm/index.htm
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Darek
Premium
join:2000-12-04
Chicago, IL
kudos:3
reply to amark

Free software like Spybot, Ad-aware,and jv16 PowerTools are known very well and will do the best job for you!!!
:):)



howie1
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Antarctica
kudos:4
reply to amark

said by amark:
Like Window Washer a lot. Seen many programs like Window Washer out there. Wondering if there is a product that is much better than this? Thanks.

Window Washer works great and I use it constantly. That, in addition to a spyware/adware removal tool (AdAware, Spybot), is all you need to keep your system clean of unnecessary garbage.


John2g
Qui Tacet Consentit
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join:2001-08-10
England
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reply to amark

I haven't found anything to better Window Washer.

Be warned if you try System Mechanic. Just clicking on the tabs in the Internet Washing section can alter your settings to their defaults.
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Feivel1

join:2002-04-11
Baytown, TX
reply to amark

Take a look at Tracks Eraser Pro
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TLW9

join:2001-08-21
Columbia, MD
reply to amark

CyberScrub 3.0



bobbagels
Just Another Scorpion Mechwarrior
Premium
join:2000-11-15
Matawan, NJ
kudos:2
reply to amark

I personally consider Window Washer to be one of the best.

But just for the hell of it, here are a few other good ones as well,
»www.12ghosts.com/index.htm
»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54351,00.asp (will work with XP rather nicely)
»www.historykill.com/

There are more but those seem to be the top of the line. And they all work with XP.
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DanDigital

join:2001-02-20
Henderson, NV
reply to amark

Tracks Eraser Pro is the best out there. It runs silently in the background from startup, and as long as your computer is halfway decent, you can't even tell when its scrubbing. You can set it up to delete all your personal info every hour on the hour.

And... UNLIKE Window Washer, Tracks Eraser Pro can clean your index.dat files, which are hidden system files that store every single Website you've ever visited.

Dan
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Randy Bell
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Santa Clara, CA

said by DanDigital:
UNLIKE Window Washer, Tracks Eraser Pro can clean your index.dat files, which are hidden system files that store every single Website you've ever visited.
How can it possibly do this while windows is running? Those index files are locked. Window Washer does clean those files upon reboot, in DOS-mode before the windows GUI opens. :)
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gt7697c
Premium
join:2001-02-16
The Hive

Asked:

quote:

How can it possibly do this while windows is running?
Answered

quote:
It runs silently in the background from startup
HTH.:)
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howie1
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reply to amark

Asked:

said by amark:
Like Window Washer a lot. Seen many programs like Window Washer out there. Wondering if there is a product that is much better than this? Thanks.

Answer:
No.


Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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join:2003-01-20
reply to amark

Why buy another program like window washer to do something IE can do already? You can delete temp internet files, cookies, and history with internet explorer. Keizer



Randy Bell
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join:2002-02-24
Santa Clara, CA
reply to gt7697c

GT, it can't clean the index files while the windows GUI is running, 'cause they are LOCKED, right? It has to clean them in DOS-mode, before the GUI loads -- the same way that WW does. :)
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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join:2003-01-20
reply to amark

Randy you are correct. I followed a long thread on this very topic. The index.dat folder can not be cleaned without a re-boot. Keizer



DanDigital

join:2001-02-20
Henderson, NV

Tracks Eraser Pro cleans index.dat files without a reboot. Don't know how, just know it does. I have an index.dat viewer program that confirms it.

Dan
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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join:2003-01-20
reply to amark

Interesting Dan....maybe the viewer is just showing you what it knows you want to see and then cleans up the files the next time you re-boot! Just a thought. Keizer



DanDigital

join:2001-02-20
Henderson, NV

That doesn't even make sense. How does the viewer know what I want to see? Tracks Eraser Pro has the ability to wipe the files without a reboot; that's why I use it, in fact. I sometimes go weeks without rebooting and I like those index.dat files to be wiped. If you don't believe me, try it yourself.

Index.dat Viewer can be found here:
»www.exits.ro/dwl/IndexView.exe

A working demo of Tracks Eraser Pro can be found here:
»www.acesoft.net/?te

Dan
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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join:2003-01-20
reply to amark

Your right Dan it doesn't make sence.....neither does a software program that can delete the index.dat files while windows is running. But I believe you that it is doing that. Just goes against everything I have ever heard about the process of deleting those files. Keizer



howie1
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join:2003-04-08
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"Why buy another program like window washer to do something IE can do already? You can delete temp internet files, cookies, and history with internet explorer. Keizer"

True, keizer, you can manually do most of the things WindowWasher and others can do but I like the single-click interface and WW is highly customizable too. You can download plugins for free that also let you clear recently opened files from many popular programs as well. WindowWasher has become a "must have" for me, but to each his own, I guess.


[text was edited by author 2003-04-30 01:17:21]


gt7697c
Premium
join:2001-02-16
The Hive
reply to Randy Bell

Well.....that is tricky...and notice I only quoted the parts that I liked.

On startup those files are not locked, they are still open...otherwise Internet Sweeper or MRU-Blaster couldn't delete them. (Both found at »www.wilders.org under the free tools section..I believe.) So if the program Tracks Eraser Pro is loading at startup then it is probably safe to assume that it is deleting those files at that time. (That time being when those files are not officially locked by Windows.) You may also be able to achieve the deleting of those at System Shut Down....I believe.

Since I don't use the program...I can't say what it is actually doing or not. I believe that is doing it on startup....silently with no user interaction. However, if it is deleting those files while actually inside Windows.....I take my hat off to the clever programmer who figured out a way to pull it off.:)

I base what I know on XP and 2k, I don't use Win9.x anymore so maybe a DOS based O/S is different.
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Randy Bell
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join:2002-02-24
Santa Clara, CA

said by gt7697c:
So if the program Tracks Eraser Pro is loading at startup then it is probably safe to assume that it is deleting those files at that time. (That time being when those files are not officially locked by Windows.)
That's what WW does too: when you have the default "bleach" option enabled (see pic), WW inserts a "washidx" entry as a "RunOnce" entry in the registry, which executes early in the boot process on the next boot of windows. This "washidx" program does the "bleaching" or deletion and recreation of new index.dat files. I suspect this program uses a similar trick.
said by gt7697c:
Since I don't use the program...I can't say what it is actually doing or not. I believe that is doing it on startup....silently with no user interaction.
I can accept that it is probably doing the same as WW does, just before the Windows GUI loads, after which the index.dat files get locked.
said by gt7697c:
However, if it is deleting those files while actually inside Windows.....I take my hat off to the clever programmer who figured out a way to pull it off.
Well me too, because it will be a first, when/if someone finds a way to delete or overwrite locked files with windows GUI running. :)
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DanDigital

join:2001-02-20
Henderson, NV

The way around it is to unlock the files. Which is what I believe Tracks Eraser does.

Dan



gt7697c
Premium
join:2001-02-16
The Hive

And that is where the problem is DanDigital. How is this program deleting something that no other program of its ilk is able to do while inside the Windows GUI where the files are locked.

So is Tracks Eraser Pro loading at start up????
Do you have that option checked????
Do you see an entry for it in Task Scheduler???

What happens when you un-check that option and run the program and then reboot the system???? Is it deleting those files now???
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-20
reply to amark

Click for full size
Since we are talking about a pay software for erasing internet history, this is a list of all the items Ace utilities will erase, including the famous index.dat. They also have a free 30 day trial. Keizer


Randy Bell
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Santa Clara, CA

said by Keizer:
Since we are talking about a pay software for erasing internet history, this is a list of all the items Ace utilities will erase, including the famous index.dat.
I see from your screen shot that Ace also requires a reboot to delete locked index.dat files: indeed this is the only way to delete them. :)
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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join:2003-01-20
reply to amark

Yep...just trying to prove our point Randy. Keizer



Darek
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join:2000-12-04
Chicago, IL
kudos:3
reply to Keizer

said by Keizer:
Since we are talking about a pay software for erasing internet history, this is a list of all the items Ace utilities will erase, including the famous index.dat. They also have a free 30 day trial. Keizer
For these, I use System Purify 2002.
It's easy to use and very vast working (clean in a few seconds!!!) program.

Jrb2
Premium
join:2001-08-31
kudos:3

1 recommendation

reply to amark

About that "cleaning" of index.dat I would like to copy part of the IEClean Helpfile with respect to this issue:

How to use the SECURITY tab
"Reset databases on reboot"

When checked, this box will tell IEClean to reset the size of the various INDEX.DAT database files to their minimum sizes of 16k and 32k (depending on where they are) when your machine is rebooted.

The reason this has to be done on a reboot instead of through IEClean is the result of instabilities in IE where these files are locked completely, preventing access to them. Since these files remain open even when IE is not in use, they cannot be truncated while Win95 or NT is operating due to integration with the operating system. If you try to change the size of these files while in Win95 or NT, the operating system itself will crash because of any changes to these files.

This box needs to be checked only for users of the IE4 or IE5 browser. It's not necessary with IE3. Checking this box will shrink the files back to their minimum sizes. If this box isn't checked, the INDEX databases will continue to grow in size even if they're emptied by IEClean. We had no choice but to do it this way because of poor design in IE4 and IE5's integration with the operating system and our desire not to help IE4 or IE5 crash more often than they already do.

IEClean is Copyright 1996-2001 by Privacy Software Corporation

Site:
http://www.nsclean.com/ieclean.html