http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r6723287 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:46:35 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:46:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6776982 RocketShip : So the phone and cable companies are upgrading to fiber optic because it is less reliable and more expensive than copper?

I don't think so. Every technology has its particular issues, but that doesn't change the fact that per unit of data transfer, fiber optic is VASTLY more dependable and cheaper than copper.

While what you state may be true, it doesn't affect the big picture.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6776982 Wed, 07 May 2003 09:47:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6734928 Omega : well, he hasn't gotten caught yet, so more power to him.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6734928 Fri, 02 May 2003 17:32:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6732777 Speedy8 : Yeah, My cable was originally $40 a month 6 years ago and wasn't capped. After awhile they capped it at 2Mbit. Then they raised the price to $45 awhile later. Now usage caps. I mean was it not profitable up until now, or are they just greedy?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6732777 Fri, 02 May 2003 13:30:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6727157 jims2321 : History of Cable has been one of price rising and services declining. Nothing recently has changed that. In areas where there is no competition (about 80% of cable territories are captive, ie no competition), prices have on average risen 5 to 7% year over year. Don't be fooled by your current bill, because in two years you will be wishing for that price again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6727157 Thu, 01 May 2003 21:15:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6726690 kba4 : that's correct; how would masking the IP do anything? the data passes through the ISP's network eventually, so they'll be able to measure it then. it is possible that this guy's network is setup to assign multiple IP's from the cable modem, which really defeats a main purpose of having a router in the first place, and the modem is acting as a switch between the LAN. in this case, your modem stats will reflect total LAN usage, both locally and to the net. in any case, the ISP can see the modem's stats, and so nothing is hid anyway.
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roadrunner is a good name for the service; i don't remember one cartoon where we actually like the rr character :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6726690 Thu, 01 May 2003 20:17:38 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6725219 NGOwner : You don't honestly believe that Cox doesn't know what your buddy is using, do you? No router can hide one's usage from the ISP one uses. No device can.

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My freind has Cox cable and he is under a cap, but breaks it daily. Since his router masks his IP, cox has yet to write him a letter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6723840 Thu, 01 May 2003 15:13:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6723287 Dirk Daring : Ditto in mine. Hell, Adelphia could add $20/more a month and probably keep 90% of subscribers. They have a monopoly here. DSL will never come because of fiber along every major street.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6723287 Thu, 01 May 2003 14:12:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6722466 Shoriyuken : Why do we assume prices will rise? Because so far cable prices always HAVE risen. Especially in my area.
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Not only that, components made for fiber networks have not been tested for a extended period of time, so we cannot yet determine the longevity of fiber.
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Prices should fall. Does the fiber get rusty with age? Does it pass less data the older it gets? Usually technology marches forward enabling faster and faster throughput while costs continue to drop.

At one time 9600bps over dialup was beyond belief. 56K was astonishing. Now our broadband connections are delivering data across the country at speeds faster than the original IBM PC's MFM fixed disk.

Tomorrow we'll laugh at 1Mbps. We'll be complaining because it our $50/month service is capped at 100Mbps or 1GBps. Of course the average web page will contain 10 megs of pictures that need to transfer to our computers in under a second to make the web experience pleasant. I fully expect half or even a majority of that the size to be ad related.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721374 Thu, 01 May 2003 10:03:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721279 evagilon : But for how much longer? I'm sure your prices will jump soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721279 Thu, 01 May 2003 09:49:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721266 vic102482 : Bandwith caps SUCK. If they can deal with the users then dont over suscribe the network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721266 Thu, 01 May 2003 09:47:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721249 russotto : $99.95/month? Could get Speakeasy DSL 1.5/768 for that, and not have to deal with invisible bandwidth limits, port blocking, NAT restriction, and similar nonsense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6721249 Thu, 01 May 2003 09:44:36 EDT