A Price War Cometh > joy

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said by morbo:

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price war = good for us.

let the blood letting begin!

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said by saber11:

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Not if they do what Roadrunner is doing, imposing a 15gig a month cap on combined uploads and downloads with a $12.50 surcharge for every 5gig over.

Sure they may lower the prices, but the capman cometh bringing higher fees.

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reply to morbo
There's no price war if you can't get DSL. That's a huge percentage of the INNER INNER INNER INNER INNER URBAN(and SUBURBAN) population. DSL availability is barely over 50% in major metro areas. Cable knows this so there's no reason for them to participate in the price war. They will get 100% of the market that can't get DSL and probably 40% of the market at least that can. With those market share numbers, they will easily beat out DSL and be far more profitable doing it. Unless DSL engages in the strategy I suggest THEY WILL LOSE. I'm right and everybody else is wrong.

said by 2farfromCO7:

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There's no price war if you can't get DSL.

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reply to saber11
Exactly, if DSL was available to 100% of their customers, they could never get away with this. These policies prove that there is no price war and it's completely due to the fact that DSL isn't available.

reply to morbo
WRONG!!!! They need to do just the opposite. They need to push NO MINIMUM SPEED GUARANTEED and ANYTIME SLOWDOWN WITHOUT WARNING DUE TO LINE CONDITIONS(NOT TRAFFIC) BUTTON. The only way they can beat cable is by offering DSL AS IS(WITHOUT RTs) over 12000ft(which is the limit of SBC, no matter what they tell you, at least in the AmeriCRAP region).

said by 2farfromCO7:

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WRONG!!!! They need to do just the opposite. They need to push NO MINIMUM SPEED GUARANTEED and ANYTIME SLOWDOWN WITHOUT WARNING DUE TO LINE CONDITIONS(NOT TRAFFIC) BUTTON. The only way they can beat cable is by offering DSL AS IS(WITHOUT RTs) over 12000ft(which is the limit of SBC, no matter what they tell you, at least in the AmeriCRAP region).

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reply to morbo

said by morbo:

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is dsl an option for you? no caps at all, and no slowdowns like cable. vote with your $

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reply to 2farfromCO7
Dude, you need to keep taking your prozac!!

Why don't you start up a local neighborhood ISP/WISP? Doing so would take half the time you spend whining on here about distance limitations.

reply to 2farfromCO7

said by 2farfromCO7:

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I'm right and everybody else is wrong.

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reply to murdok6100
It's a helluva lot better than 28.8. I never said the cable companies will do the same. They don't have to. Their service is far more available. This will only get them to stop raising their prices for internet only customers and placing download caps. If they know that virtually all of their customers can switch to DSL for less, that will start a price war.

reply to morbo
DSL will have bandwidth caps someday... It's inevitable.

reply to ntguru911
I'm going to as soon as I get enough spots(I plan on using customers apartments as spots to put them so I get the "right of way" for free) to put access point amplifiers in. Right now I only have about 150 potential customers within range. None of these people can get any form of broadband access so I'll be the only game in town. However I need to be able the entire 400 unit complex in order to get enough customers. I will charge $40/month, require just a 5 month contract, and also push Vonage or other VOIP service to really stick it to SBC AmeriCRAP.

reply to Hall
I checked.... no caps.

reply to 2farfromCO7
That would have to be dirt cheap.

I wouldn't pay $30 a month for "Pure crap when it works, and half the time it doesn't" DSL.

Maybe at $19.95 if NO OTHER CHOICE.... but that's it.

So you consider 384 to be "pure crap"? I would consider even 256 to be beyond stellar. People pay $23.90 for AOL dial-up(clearly you wouldn't). Why wouldn't they pay $24.95 for a mostly on 384k service?

reply to 2farfromCO7
Have you looked into the various higher gain omni-directional antenna out there? I use a 7dBi omni on my AP and it extends my range (from a "normal" wifi PCMCIA card) by about 3 times. What kind of penetration % do you expect to get?

I had no BB for about a year and I went nuts. I finally used ISDN (which was a huge improvement BTW) and was getting ready to order a T1 for about $350/mo when we decided to move instead.

reply to Hall

said by Hall:

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DSL will have bandwidth caps someday... It's inevitable.

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