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Re: joy I don't know if that's strictly true. From the SE TOS:
quote: Speakeasy believes in the right of the individual to publish information they feel is important to the world via the Internet. Unlike many ISP's, Speakeasy allows customers to run servers (web, mail, etc.) over their Internet connections, use hubs, and share networks in multiple locations. Any service that causes a disruption in the network integrity of Speakeasy or its vendors, whether directly or indirectly, is strictly prohibited and could result in termination of service. This may include but is not limited to: IRC servers, adult-content servers, bots, webpages hosted on any Speakeasy servers, servers connected to a Speakeasy provided Internet connection, or shared networks. Speakeasy reserves the right to modify or terminate services at our sole discretion.
When I bought my service they pretty much told me "Run whatever servers you want, but if you use up to much bandwidth we'll ask you to stop or move to a business class connection." Of course, it's great that they explicitly allow servers in the first place, but it's not quite the unlimited service I thought it'd be when I first stumbled upon them. |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | reply to morbo DSL has slowdowns just like cable. at least my 640/272 Qwest dsl did everynight at primetime slowing to slower than dialup speeds. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | reply to Hall said by Hall: DSL will have bandwidth caps someday... It's inevitable.
Caps are the new moneymaker. i totally agree with you. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
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Amen ! You whine mucho s a, chut up, o.k.? We all berry sawie you r esstuck wiff dial-up Mr.2FarFromCentralOrafice.
Be nice and listen to NTguru9juanjuan [AMG, OH NICE!] |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | reply to dvd536
Re: joy said by dvd536: DSL has slowdowns just like cable. at least my 640/272 Qwest dsl did everynight at primetime slowing to slower than dialup speeds.
not my dsl. sbc. -- We'll be incredibly lucky to make it out of this decade without an attack that dwarfs 9/11 due to the current U.S. led war. |
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 inciterNoobiePremium join:2000-08-30 Rohnert Park, CA | reply to borv said by borv: get speakeasy- $89/month for 1.5/384
they don't care what you do - servers 24.7 , host hard core porn sites, whatever.
Why? I now get 1.5/128 for only $29.month was $49 with SBC I think "most" don't care about upstream. Ouch $89/month thats steep I hope your making money from your upstream.
Thanks for the Price cut! -- A SUCKER is born every min. On the Internet a SUCKER is born every Sec. |
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 | reply to 2farfromCO7 You are completely wrong.
"It's a helluva lot better than 28.8."
Cable is NOT without fault. I have seen a few people go from cable back to dialup. I have seen folks dump DSL and go back to dialup as well.
"I never said the cable companies will do the same. They don't have to. Their service is far more available. "
So if dsl bottoms out and offers 'as is ' service, you don't think the MSO's will do the same and sell/overload everything?
"This will only get them to stop raising their prices for internet only customers and placing download caps. " Quantity or Speed caps?
"If they know that virtually all of their customers can switch to DSL for less, that will start a price war."
If faced with the 'as-is' dsl service your speaking of, I doubt prices would lower at all. Neither would service levels.
People want a product that works. There are areas where DSL runs 99$ a month.. the cable systems cost 50$ a month. They pay the 99$/month for the consistency and quality.
Most consumers want what they pay for. They don't play with hand-grenades and expect not to get shagged in the process.
Heres a backwards example of what YOUR proposing. Take a look in the Adelphia MSG boards . They have done a LOT of work to keep their customer base. They are getting over what your proposing DSL companies should do.
There will come a point in time where that cheap 'as-is' service starts taking away resources from your company.. you loose money and profits become levered.
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 | Well, here we have an apartment complex of over 400 units. 90% of them are under 35, probably 25% are Asian(mostly Indian), and extremely technologically inclined. THERE IS NO BROADBAAND ACCESS AT ALL FOR THAT COMPLEX SINCE IT HAS IT'S OWN PROPREITARY CABLE SYSTMEM. DSL is offered at an adjacent complex in the same sq mile block because they got an RT first. Of course that was a few months before SBC/AmeriCRAP went into full blown blackmail mode and halted Project Pronto. The stupidity of it is that they can get cable modems and probably have less than 50% of all broadband customers in that complex. Now, are you telling me that if they offered "As Is" DSL service to those 400 or so units, that nobody would take it or that they wouldn't be satisfied with it? I'm not just being shortsighted about this either. Clearly, they aren't going to deploy any more RTs(unless they get all their demands from the State of Michigan). They've been saying for 4 years that DSL is coming. That's longterm enough for me. |
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 | reply to dvd536 said by dvd536: DSL has slowdowns just like cable. at least my 640/272 Qwest dsl did everynight at primetime slowing to slower than dialup speeds.
I've been with Verizon's 1500/128 package for nearly 2 years now, and I've never experienced ANY throughput problems that cable subscribers get. My speeds have been consistent since I've had the service, in fact according to tests on this site, my speeds are usually 1508/136 regularly, and occasionally down to 1497/136. |
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 | reply to jdmurray The easiest way to increase profit is to cut network costs...and fire people. |
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 tempman join:2003-04-30 Tarrytown, NY | reply to dvd536 I think your telling a tale, you line to the co, is your own and not shared like cable. If there was a slowdown it was on a major backbone. |
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