[Spoiler] Enterprise in Anime/Sci Fi http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r6782649 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:57:49 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:57:49 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6988688 Leif3 : i can't wait for the episode with eminem as the guest star.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6988688 Fri, 30 May 2003 21:58:44 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6980931 jsouth : The ability to kill so many borg is explained by the fact that Borg didn't have such advanced tech yet. Also I believe Female Vulcans also go through Pon Far. As far as that goes the doc is the only one who witnessed it. I think He kept mum about it didn't he?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6980931 Fri, 30 May 2003 00:25:44 EDT Re: Star Trek integrity == oximoron http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6977329 jlv :
said by Logan 5 See Profile:
Not trying to bash you, but do you have any factual evidence for this statement??
Leonard Nimoy recounts the events behind the Roddenberry's script changes for the 3rd season episode Is There In Truth No Beauty? in a book - I'm pretty sure it was in William Shatner's book Star Trek Memories (link to amazon).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6977329 Thu, 29 May 2003 17:55:50 EDT Re: Star Trek integrity == oximoron http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6925368 seaquake : I've seen plenty of interviews where Nimoy mentioned the battle they had over the IDIC. He didn't want to wear it and speak the dialogue that was to go with it. They came to a compromise where Diana Muldur would ask if he was wearing the Vulcun IDIC (or something like that) and I think he responded back "to honor your presence" or such.

You'll also notice the drape behind Spock in his quarters in STII: The Wrath of Khan is one BIG IDIC.
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said by jlv See Profile:
Gene Roddenberry slipped the IDIC medal into an TOS 3rd season episode... so that he could later sell them. Integrity?
Not trying to bash you, but do you have any factual evidence for this statement??
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said by Spore Cloud See Profile:
I wish Gene was still alive. Star Trek would probably still have its damn integrity.
Gene Roddenberry slipped the IDIC medal into an TOS 3rd season episode... so that he could later sell them. Integrity?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6921002 Fri, 23 May 2003 12:57:39 EDT Bobby Ewing's Revenge!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6870292 Derek_Wildstar : Y'know, Brannon & Braga could wipe out this whole season just by having Archer or T'Pol wake up and dismiss it all as one, wierd-ass dream.

Hey, it worked for Dallas! ;)
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said by lazarus_ See Profile:
Now all I can think of is that they just call it Star Trek Uncut, b/c I don't think any content was ever edited out by other networks (correct me if I'm wrong). *shrug*


We have a winner. It is the original episode without any of the scenes cut to make room for commercials. I was amazed when SCI FI did something similar with TOS. There were scenes in some of the shows that I had never seen before.
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??O_o?? *scratch head*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6845960 Wed, 14 May 2003 23:22:41 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6845938 lazarus_ : I think City tv has changed Enterprise from 8pm to 10pm... Guess its doing poor in the ratings... lmao...

btw what exactly is Star Trek uncut on TNN????? At first I thought it was uncut as in commercial free.. That theory was soon broken. Now all I can think of is that they just call it Star Trek Uncut, b/c I don't think any content was ever edited out by other networks (correct me if I'm wrong). *shrug*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6845938 Wed, 14 May 2003 23:20:50 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6845522 Leif3 : Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

That is how I approach Star Trek shows now. Voyager fooled me once. I won't let Enterprise complete the job of ruining my passion for Star Trek.

I'll stick to my Star Trek Uncut on TNN.
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Is there a newsgroup where I can download it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6824509 Mon, 12 May 2003 19:20:18 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6823911 Snakeoil : Archer mentioned to Topal an story that cochern told at a graduation party. Cochern said that just before his launch there was a battle between cyborg type people and humans from the future.
Archer went on to mention that cochern retracted that story less then a week later.
Topal didn't want to believe it because cochern was known as a drinker and teller of tall tales.
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Guess they don't have Google. Or, this is an alternate reality.
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1]You cannot start out with a car, and by using whats inside the car convert it into a jet plane. Thats what seemed to be happening with the shuttle. It started out as a wrap 2 max local space craft and by the time it was destroyed was able to hit wrap 5 or higher. Same goes for the weapons on the shuttle. You can't take a flint lock rifle and convert it into a nuke bomb unless you have access to all the right equipment in the time of the flint lock.
2]About the Doc resisting the nano probes; and being able to destroy the nanos with dose of raditation.
Resistance is futile, and I think the probes should have been able to withstand or at least started to withstand the doses of raditation they were given.

Whats next is the Enterprise begins her mission as a war ship. Next season will be more fighting and destruction.
I think the Klingons and the Romulans as well as a "new" race will try stomping out earth.

I had this thought watching Enterprise last night, and it would be a "kool" plot twist.
What if the Enterprise we are watching isn't part of the star fleet we grew up with as kids...

In other words what if we are watching the "universe" of the other spock and the other kirk? [TOS Mirror, mirror, where the kirks and spocks are switched from an alternate reality]
Now that would be a nice twist :).
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I agree that the doctor should not have been so easily able to get better from being infected with 24th century Borg nanoprobes by a simple 'radiation bath'. If Picard and Crusher could not stop them, why should we believe that Archer & Phlox could with far inferior technology.....?

The whole concept of a Star Trek series 'breaking new ground' or being 'unique' in some way is long gone.

Enterprise is nothing compared to ST:TNG or DS9 or even the mediocre Voyager.. Without new plotlines & story arcs, you can only 'inbreed' the same old story ideas across the franchise a finite number of times before you reach 'critical mass' and run out of ideas....

It's been only 1 season of Enterprise and they're already recycling the Borg??? what's next after the Klingons, Rimulans, Ferengi?? Can the writers produce anything even remotely palatable??

Only time will tell......
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6818692 Mon, 12 May 2003 00:26:15 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6816808 lazarus_ : I don't even watch Enterprise anymore.. lol its getting too gay even for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6816808 Sun, 11 May 2003 20:49:21 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6809228 htmlartist :
said by seaquake See Profile:
Bottom line, the Borg are assimilating the Star Trek Franchise.

Also, if the part with the Doctor becoming infected were left out, the episode as a whole would have been better. That was my main reason for disliking it. How can he cure it so easily when it is nearly impossible to cure HUNDREDS OF YEARS in the future?


[text was edited by author 2003-05-10 20:21:24]
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said by Nighttime See Profile:
Would have been better to have Q's voice saying at the end something to the effect. "I better watch these humans. They could be dangerious and have no idea what is out there. May need to test them further in the future. But for now will let all parties forget this...."


Now THAT I could have accepted!
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Would have been better to have Q's voice saying at the end something to the effect. "I better watch these humans. They could be dangerious and have no idea what is out there. May need to test them further in the future. But for now will let all parties forget this...."

But the people in charge have ripped up the time line before like no WWIII but Kan's and company takeover then final leaving of Earth. But in First Contact and the first STTNG they did have WWIII!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6803988 Sat, 10 May 2003 01:12:49 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6802617 jhboricua : All I have to say is that there is no way they are going to convince me that 24th century Borg were defeated so easy by 22nd Century humans. God is like the Borg get weaker and weaker every time they show up in ST, except this time their enemy was 200 years behind in the technology curve!!! And the Doc's resistance and solution to the nanoprobes in his body was laughable. Even Beverly couldn't do anything about them in the 24th Century when they were on Picard until he got cut off from the collective.

There is so many holes I can't actually believe they made this chapter.

Next time we know the TNG crew will made a guest showing in some elaborate plot by Q.
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Remember the race that had two color skin and the final outcome? STTNG "Inner light" was in this vain also. I can remember these as vivid as the first time I saw them but have problems with the stories they are cranking out right now. Just too darn "PC". I would agree "Carbon Creek" was good and intersting but the rest are hack stories.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6800803 Fri, 09 May 2003 18:28:32 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6799709 Shipon :
said by Logan 5 See Profile:
Honestly, what Paramount needs to do if they EVER want a shot at saving the ST franchise is get & keep Brannon & Braga as far away from a plot-line or Star Trek series as possible.

IMHO it's those two who have collectively done more to ruin the franchise than anything that Paramount or UPN could ever do, even intentionally.

They ran out of credible ideas back at the end of ST:TNG, but because GR saw something in them that he liked, I think that they were/are allowed to linger on well past the time they should have turned the reigns over to their successors who would have brought new story-lines, plot arcs, etc. to keep the series fresh. Because of this, instead of innovation, there was imitation. The same old script ideas were being constantly rotated between the different ST series so viewers who watched the various offerings would notice extreme similarities between many of the plotlines across the 5 series...

I personally have yet to see the controversial *Borg* episode, but will watch it this weekend. If it's as bad as others here have indicated, then perhaps it is time for Paramount to retire Star Trek for good and let it die with at least some semblance of decency and credit to Gene Roddenberry for his vision back in 1966 to make the last 30+ years something to remember.

To me, Star Trek died when Gene did.......

I seriously hope that Star Trek doesn't end. The whole series has so much possibilities, yet the writers are getting lazier.

Well, the episode itself wouldn't have been so bad had the Borg been unknown in the series that were set further in the future.
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She makes mention that Starfleet had been working feverishly on defenses and weapons to combat the borg for the past 1+ year, but didn't that the borg would show up for years.

The motivation of the Borg has changed over time, Too. When Picard and Co. first met the borg, they were described as a race that was only interested in raw materials. They didn't try to assimilate the Enterprise...they tried to "eat" it! It wasn't until The Best of Both Worlds that we ever heard of the Borg Assimilating alien cultures. Persumably, at that time, it was the first time the borg would assimilate in order to conquer humanity (ie, it was a plot). But as the borg race grew, the impression was given that they "always" assimilated.

Bottom line, the Borg are assimilating the Star Trek Franchise.
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IMHO it's those two who have collectively done more to ruin the franchise than anything that Paramount or UPN could ever do, even intentionally.

They ran out of credible ideas back at the end of ST:TNG, but because GR saw something in them that he liked, I think that they were/are allowed to linger on well past the time they should have turned the reigns over to their successors who would have brought new story-lines, plot arcs, etc. to keep the series fresh. Because of this, instead of innovation, there was imitation. The same old script ideas were being constantly rotated between the different ST series so viewers who watched the various offerings would notice extreme similarities between many of the plotlines across the 5 series...

I personally have yet to see the controversial *Borg* episode, but will watch it this weekend. If it's as bad as others here have indicated, then perhaps it is time for Paramount to retire Star Trek for good and let it die with at least some semblance of decency and credit to Gene Roddenberry for his vision back in 1966 to make the last 30+ years something to remember.

To me, Star Trek died when Gene did.......

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and isint pon far supposed to be something that only Male Vulcans go through? lol..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6790665 Thu, 08 May 2003 17:52:54 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6790367 Shipon : I was laughing my ass off as I saw last night's episode. I mean...the obvious references to First Contact(but, that movie was great).

This is why time travel is too messy for even science fiction. I'd rather this was an "accurate" representation of what would have happened before the Federation was formed. The only way this could possibly be explained is if this series is actually an alternate reality(which might even be possible if it is revealed so at the end of the series).

The plot of that episode would have been more interesting had it not violated the whole timeline, however. They really need to get their asses in gear and get some interesting plots before the show gets even more boring.
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Not to mention that they had Picard as part of the collective for a while. You know they had full run of his knowledge.

Robby
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said by vfpguy See Profile:

Paradox! How could the Borg know where Earth was if they didn't get the coordinates until the Borg that traveled back in time sent it to them?


As I see it, the Borg in "First Contact" knew where the Earth was because Q jumped the Enterprise ahead to meet them, and got their interest. Then, they assimilated some humans when they found them, and thus learned the coordinates of Earth so they could head there for "First Contact". Just a theory, though.
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These writers haven't come up with a single ORIGINAL storyline, plot, or idea at all.

They're redone storylines from all the previous ST shows and even copying stuff from Dr. Who for pete sake!

This show doesn't deserve the name Star Trek in it's title.

Oh wait.....

I DOESN'T HAVE THE NAME STAR TREK ANYWHERE IN IT'S TITLE!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6787267 Thu, 08 May 2003 11:38:05 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6787168 vfpguy : At the end of "Regeneration" it was revealed that the Borg had sent a message deep into the Delta quadrant with the coordinates for Earth and that it would take 400 years for the message to get there.

The Borg that were found in the Arctic got there because of the events of "First Contact" which had a Borg ship traveling 400 years back in time to assimilate Earth and prevent the development of warp drive.

Paradox! How could the Borg know where Earth was if they didn't get the coordinates until the Borg that traveled back in time sent it to them?

"Alternate realities" is a convenient way to get around "oops we wrote ourselves into a corner.".

Yes there are cover ups but why would Starfleet cover up important information from themselves?
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It was a good episode but I couldn't help but think how it pretty much changed the entire Star Trek time line. Hopefully the writers have a really good explanation on this.
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I didn't watch the show, I'll catch it on the weekend, but it sounds interesting.
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You have to remember the stuff in all the other series has happened yet.

Anytime there is time travel you run into alternate realities.

I haven't seen the ep yet but that's the explanation you'd get from the writers.
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Roddenberry must be spinning at about 10,000 rpm right now!

I remember the letter writing campain for the orginal series to keep it on... Should we have a letter writing to have them kill the series or at least fire the nuts at the top?

Sorry to be so angry but getting tied of "when we have no ideas just do a time or BORG story!" Its getting a bit old. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6784904 Thu, 08 May 2003 01:07:52 EDT Re: [Spoiler] Enterprise http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6782932 clyde_ : I agree, they just blew everything that was established about the Borg in Next Generation and Voyager out of the water. Within the first fifteen minutes of the show, we learned about the nanoprobes and how they assisted in regeneration. By the end we not only learned the basics of assimilation, but also how the Borg adapt to new technology and put it to their own uses. And gee whiz we even know the general direction from where they're from, it shouldn't have been any surprise when Picard met up with the Borg later. There should have already been entire entries in the Starfleet database detailing who they were with caution about meeting up with them in the future.

Don't get me wrong, other then the horrible continuity issues, it was a pretty decent episode. It was kind of cool to see how a couple Borg started with nothing and eventually began to build a new army. It was also cool to watch Enterprise struggle against the alien technology and figure out how to overcome it. But unfortunately they chose to reveal way too much about the Borg for this point in time. It's just stupid because if it really happened this way humanity would have been better prepared to face the Borg the next time they met.

Oh goodie, next week we see T'Pol go through Pon Far. Supposedly another first that wasn't witnessed before Spock in ToS.
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Didn't Picard & Co. know nothing about the Borg when Q flung the Enterprise out there? (What was that ep name?)
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