 oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Re: ha ha said by LegoPower77:
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The Sky Ain't Falling
"Let this decision (by the FCC to relax media ownership rules) proceed unhampered, the critics say, and woe be the nation. A handful of corporations will come to own most news outlets, they tell us, and within some large cities and the nation at large they will determine what gets known and what doesn't.
"...Excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing. In the recorded history of the human family, there has never, ever been a time and place with as many information outlets as are now to be found in the 21st century in the
United States.
Yeah, and they're all owned by the same minority of media interests that with surely just grow smaller. Great logic sport.
said by talentless hack:
"The Internet alone provides the possibility for virtually all of us to possess the equivalent of a printing press. Then there is cable TV, which provides hundreds of channels compared to just three broadcast channels I was able to tune in when I was a child. Of course, there are newspapers, and there are magazines and books and newsletters. [I forgot to mention satellite radio before, but there's another substitute].
Until your check doesn't make it to the handful of providers like Time Warner and Comcast that control the ACCESS to the content.
said by talentless hack:
"The chief absurdity in all the worrying about American journalism being in the hands of a relatively few corporations is that the proposed alternative is to leave much of it in the hands of the federal government."
No schmuck, it's that the access is PROTECTED by the government. I'm sure than in Facistville this is a foriegn concept.
said by talentless hack:
- Columnist Jay Ambrose
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 LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Corona, CA | Of course...should I have expected a troll to actually substantiate his claims. LOL. |
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 SmokeyI'd rather be skiingPremium
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Right on Lego, that’s how I feel so often trying to have an open discussion with some of these people (who will remain nameless, but you know who you are  )
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 ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
That was original. Where have I encountered this attitude before?
Let's see: "My position is so right, so correct, so fair, so enlightened, and so obviously all of the above, that I should not be bothered with arguing it or explaining it. If you don't get it, it's either because of your flawed character, your questionable agenda, or your inferior intellect. Either way, it's your problem, not mine."
Oh, yeah... I was convinced only liberals felt that way. Thanks for setting me straight on that.
You know, if you took the trouble to communicate rather than rant, I'd probably agree with you more often than not. Not that this should mean anything, you understand. |
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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Midlothian, VA | Wrong, it's leftists that can't take a joke.
And just because you disagree with it, it's a rant. I think that most of my posts are well reasoned and well written (of course, I am biased in this regard  ). True, occasionally I have to blow off steam (like the post that got this whole thing started) but that's just because it seems like I just go in circles in here. But alas, the tide is turning. The economics community has long since abandoned what was mainstream from the 30s to the mid-70s, and it's only a matter of time before the rest of you all come along (the FCC rulings as of late are quite an encouragement ).
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Corona, CA | Welcome to last week. |
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
And just because you disagree with it, it's a rant.
You got it backwards: It's a rant, therefore I disagree  said by LegoPower77:
I think that most of my posts are well reasoned and well written...True, occasionally I have to blow off steam (like the post that got this whole thing started) but that's just because it seems like I just go in circles in here.
I respectfully suggest that persuasion by means of logical reasoning based on facts will go much further than lecturing from a bully pulpit, which I'm sad to say, is the tone in most of your messages.
Look, I'm a lot closer to "Laissez-faire" (THAT'S how it's spelled, dagnabit) Capitalism than I suspect you think I am. But corporate enterprise is not directed by some omniscient and infallible benevolent entity out there, but by flawed human beings, who through perfectly legitimate processes end up having great powers and great abilities to affect our lives, for better or worse. I don't believe it's morally objectionable or in any other way sinister, to expect government to exercise some measure of control to minimize the worse. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone with an Enron 401K plan. Of course, government is not perfect either. But it's better than nothing. |
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
And just because you disagree with it, it's a rant.
You got it backwards: It's a rant, therefore I disagree
Look, I'm a lot closer to "Laissez-faire"(That's how it's spelled, really) Capitalism than I suspect you think I am. But corporate enterprise is not directed by some omniscient and infallible benevolent entity out there, but by flawed human beings, who through perfectly legitimate processes end up having great powers and great abilities to affect our lives, for better or worse. I don't believe it's morally objectionable or in any other way sinister, to expect government to exercise some measure of control to minimize the worst. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone with an Enron 401K plan. Of course, government is not perfect either. But it's better than nothing. |
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | My apologies for the double post, confusion on my part. |
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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Midlothian, VA | no problem.
Perhaps I'm being a bit obtuse  , but government is not omniscient either. They actually would know less about a certain market than the entrepreneur who is actually in the market. Regulation is not a panacea, it just changes the structure by throwing it to politicians who operate under different incentives but are self-interested just like the firms. I'd rather trust the latter because they're not gonna show up to my door with an arrest warrant for not buying their product (viewing a tax as a "purchase" of government service).
PS: the other one got pissed because of my tardiness in response, sorry, I was on vacation last week)
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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Midlothian, VA | reply to oliphant5
Notice how you don't address the point. Sorry, didn't realize that these issues had an expiration date. Actually they don't, because I was able to say what I was trying to say in response to this post (»Competition is Bad?) in "Competition is Bad?" forum, N.B.: »Competition is Bad?
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Corona, CA | If you actually had a point...then I may have considered it. |
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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Midlothian, VA | Aak. . . it was just too far over your head, obviously. I don't know why I bother with you at all since so many others are at least willing to respond without being ad hominem. In fact, I won't.
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
I'd rather trust the latter because they're not gonna show up to my door with an arrest warrant for not buying their product (viewing a tax as a "purchase" of government service).
[For clarity, when you say "The latter" above you refer to private enterprise]
I pointed this out in my response to you on the other thread, but it is especially appropriate here:
You'll be happy to know that Adelphia (my ISP/Cable provider) is suing a good half-dozen towns in my area for refusing to commit to renewal of the franchise a year (and in some cases two years) before the franchise expires.
Won't show at my door with an arrest warrant for not buying their product? Really? They're showing up with a lawsuit. |
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