bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
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Steps for Netscape 7 1. Open Netscape and go to the "Mail and Newsgroups" module.
2. Go to "Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings" in the "Edit" drop down menu.
3. Go to the bottom of the list in a section called "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" and you will see your SMTP server settings.
4. Check your server name and make sure its set to use authentication if needed (a properly secured server will).
5. In the port option, put 465 and select the "Always" option under "Use Secure Connection (SSL)".
6. Click okay, restart Netscape and you have SMTP via your mail server again.
I'll post more mail programs slowly...
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| Good Info! Similar illustration for Myrealbox with Outlook Express is: »Myrealbox without port 25
Also in that thread is a post mentioning that Stunnel may be used for email clients that do not support SMTPS.
Unfortunately sending through Yahoo $$ubscription SMTP no longer works. Yahoo's mail server doesn't support SMTPS or any port other than 25. But they seemed genuinely interested in adding that feature when I discussed this Cox blockage with them. |
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Thanks for posting badmagicnumber. |
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Anon00Premium
join:2001-09-25
USA
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Good to hear that inTulsa. Kinda sucks that I pay Yahoo! for pop3 and smtp features and Cox blocks the SMTP port. I can understand there reasoning though. |
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| Send Yahoo a request for SMTPS, they're very good at listening to what their cu$tomers want. The more requests they get the sooner it may happen.
mail-premium-support@yahoo-inc.com
I'm not sure they'd trust premium email from the Cox SMTP. You might have to send it via their webmail interface.
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FCKGW
join:2003-01-07
Eureka, CA | inTulsa: I'm not sure they'd trust premium email from the Cox SMTP. You might have to send it via their webmail interface.
Yahoo doesn't have to trust it; it doesn't go through them. Outgoing mail through Cox SMTP goes from your computer, to region.smtp.cox.net, to the destination mail server. All that identifies the message as being from a Yahoo account are the From and Reply-to header fields. All Yahoo will notice if you use Cox SMTP is that you have stopped sending mail (since your outgoing mail won't go through Yahoo), but still receive it.
I'm not trying to deter you from trying to get SMTPS support, though. The more you can encrypt, the better. More importantly, try to get POP3S support, since you send a username and password when checking mail.
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| Good points, I guess you're right. But I'd still rather be able to use authenticated SMTP which is not available by going through Cox's forced use of their archaic SMTP facilities.
It's somewhat like US Postal mail. For most things sent by most people an anonymous stamp is just fine. But for some things it's better to use registered, certified, or FedEx.
But now Cox is forcing us to use their SMTP even though it's not right for everyone and not suitable for everything. People will at least occasionally want/need better alternatives.
Blocking Yahoo is silly anyway. Customer-originated spam & virus infections was stated as the reason for blocking port-25. But nobody could send through Yahoo's SMTP without authentication (and $ubscription) so it should be on the white-list of exceptions like the .edu & other sites.
But this side-trip strays from the main topic which is to identify and highlight alternatives for overcoming the port block. |
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