 LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
join:2002-08-03
Midlothian, VA | reply to ravital
Re: ha ha Wrong, it's leftists that can't take a joke.
And just because you disagree with it, it's a rant. I think that most of my posts are well reasoned and well written (of course, I am biased in this regard  ). True, occasionally I have to blow off steam (like the post that got this whole thing started) but that's just because it seems like I just go in circles in here. But alas, the tide is turning. The economics community has long since abandoned what was mainstream from the 30s to the mid-70s, and it's only a matter of time before the rest of you all come along (the FCC rulings as of late are quite an encouragement  ).
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"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." —Ronald Reagan |
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 oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Corona, CA | Welcome to last week. |
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 ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
And just because you disagree with it, it's a rant.
You got it backwards: It's a rant, therefore I disagree  said by LegoPower77:
I think that most of my posts are well reasoned and well written...True, occasionally I have to blow off steam (like the post that got this whole thing started) but that's just because it seems like I just go in circles in here.
I respectfully suggest that persuasion by means of logical reasoning based on facts will go much further than lecturing from a bully pulpit, which I'm sad to say, is the tone in most of your messages.
Look, I'm a lot closer to "Laissez-faire" (THAT'S how it's spelled, dagnabit) Capitalism than I suspect you think I am. But corporate enterprise is not directed by some omniscient and infallible benevolent entity out there, but by flawed human beings, who through perfectly legitimate processes end up having great powers and great abilities to affect our lives, for better or worse. I don't believe it's morally objectionable or in any other way sinister, to expect government to exercise some measure of control to minimize the worse. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone with an Enron 401K plan. Of course, government is not perfect either. But it's better than nothing. |
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
join:2001-07-19
Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
And just because you disagree with it, it's a rant.
You got it backwards: It's a rant, therefore I disagree
Look, I'm a lot closer to "Laissez-faire"(That's how it's spelled, really) Capitalism than I suspect you think I am. But corporate enterprise is not directed by some omniscient and infallible benevolent entity out there, but by flawed human beings, who through perfectly legitimate processes end up having great powers and great abilities to affect our lives, for better or worse. I don't believe it's morally objectionable or in any other way sinister, to expect government to exercise some measure of control to minimize the worst. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone with an Enron 401K plan. Of course, government is not perfect either. But it's better than nothing. |
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | My apologies for the double post, confusion on my part. |
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
join:2002-08-03
Midlothian, VA | no problem.
Perhaps I'm being a bit obtuse  , but government is not omniscient either. They actually would know less about a certain market than the entrepreneur who is actually in the market. Regulation is not a panacea, it just changes the structure by throwing it to politicians who operate under different incentives but are self-interested just like the firms. I'd rather trust the latter because they're not gonna show up to my door with an arrest warrant for not buying their product (viewing a tax as a "purchase" of government service).
PS: the other one got pissed because of my tardiness in response, sorry, I was on vacation last week)
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"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." —Ronald Reagan |
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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Midlothian, VA | reply to oliphant5
Notice how you don't address the point. Sorry, didn't realize that these issues had an expiration date. Actually they don't, because I was able to say what I was trying to say in response to this post (»Competition is Bad?) in "Competition is Bad?" forum, N.B.: »Competition is Bad?
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"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." —Ronald Reagan |
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Corona, CA | If you actually had a point...then I may have considered it. |
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LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium
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Midlothian, VA | Aak. . . it was just too far over your head, obviously. I don't know why I bother with you at all since so many others are at least willing to respond without being ad hominem. In fact, I won't.
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"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." —Ronald Reagan |
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ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
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Merrimack, NH | reply to LegoPower77
said by LegoPower77:
I'd rather trust the latter because they're not gonna show up to my door with an arrest warrant for not buying their product (viewing a tax as a "purchase" of government service).
[For clarity, when you say "The latter" above you refer to private enterprise]
I pointed this out in my response to you on the other thread, but it is especially appropriate here:
You'll be happy to know that Adelphia (my ISP/Cable provider) is suing a good half-dozen towns in my area for refusing to commit to renewal of the franchise a year (and in some cases two years) before the franchise expires.
Won't show at my door with an arrest warrant for not buying their product? Really? They're showing up with a lawsuit. |
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