Damned If They Do/Don't in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r7466792 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:55:52 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:55:52 EDT Re: Damned If They Do/Don't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7480523 Unit649 : Sure they will. Not like its that hard to anyway, even if I was to not have a discount card, my credit card company and/or bank could tell where I shop anyway without any intervention from them. Unless of course I go to a cash only basis, but then my money will make me no money at all, even though 1% or less is pathetic for interest nowadays, its inconvienent to carry cash as well as unsafe, and I somehow have to make a little money with my money anyway. Can't do that without banks or anonymously.

No matter what I do, somehow I will be tracked. Besides, my DNA profile is out there too, well close enough to it, being a security guard I have to be fingerprinted and subjected to rubber glove/drug tests frequently so I'm going to have alot of me on file, well, alot more than the average person at least. I have to be able to drive, so the state will know who I am, and they get my thumbprint and SS# with that. Have to have a gun carry permit to do my job, so now the feds have my info for that.

I actually shop at a grocery store that doesn't use cards. But since they have a no debit card policy, its write a check or hit the bank for $100 each time I go. Thats not convienent, so wallah-my purchases can easily be tied to my name and tracked.

If I ever get sick, I'll go to a medical facility and have who knows what taken from me. Supposedly its used for testing, but who knows-anything could happen to that sample-it could be placed into a database for all I know!

Either way, I'm gonna be tracked. I might as well benefit from the tracking and get discounts on stuff out of it. Its either that or pay full price, walk, and....well, can't live anywhere nowadays without providing a name and a social security number either.

I'm gonna be found no matter what I do to try and hide it. I hope they find the data they collect on me to be interesting. I'm sure it builds them an interesting profile, and it helps them to 'target' me for certian discounts and ads. Not much I can do about it, so I might as well sit back and enjoy it. The worst thing that will happen is some of their junk mail will help me start a fire to keep myself warm in the winter I guess :)
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U ::::Founder, ForeverChat IRC Network:::: »www.foreverchat.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7480523 Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:39:22 EDT Re: Damned If They Do/Don't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7479640 BrianDamage : So the grocery stores will have your personal info and shopping habits on file, and Best Buy will have that AND your DNA profile....NOT a good idea at all......
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U ::::Founder, ForeverChat IRC Network:::: »www.foreverchat.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7473807 Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:47:15 EDT Re: Damned If They Do/Don't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7472091 dvd536 :
said by ArchAngel21x See Profile:
So the one million dollar question is how do you please both groups of people?
You work on the quality of the services you offer then you wouldnt have to penalize people for taking the better deal. (most of the time people go satellite because of better quality, not a cheaper price)
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you dont get penalized on your cable tv for not having HSI so why should HSI only users get penalized? (the maintenance charges are factored into both products)
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said by Unit649 See Profile:

But heck, I can't talk, I walk into best buy, see a router or something for $199, then read the fine print saying (after $50 rebate, takes you 8 weeks to get it, today you pay $249) and I go for it.
its basically charging you LIST PRICE then making you jump thru all sorts of hoops to get it for the price that you would have gotten it at had you bought it at a non rebate store. supermarket club card stores do the same thing altho keeping records of your shopping habits and you get the same price that you would at a non card store.
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You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7472020 Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:29:56 EDT Re: Damned If They Do/Don't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7468314 Unit649 : Not shocking, the inventors of the bundle were cell phone companies, alot of them ran by phone companies. Those execs have now moved into the wired or cable companies and are spreading this stuff.

Just like on TV when you see something for $19.95. Its twenty bucks, we know it is.

But heck, I can't talk, I walk into best buy, see a router or something for $199, then read the fine print saying (after $50 rebate, takes you 8 weeks to get it, today you pay $249) and I go for it. Thats why the companies do it-it does drive sales, gets the product into the home.
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U ::::Founder, ForeverChat IRC Network:::: »www.foreverchat.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7468314 Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:46:01 EDT Re: Damned If They Do/Don't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7467663 amenite :
said by oliphant5 See Profile:
How do you please everyone?

You be honest about the bundling.

You don't pull a friggin' Comcast and magically raise the rate $15 (over 30% increase), then claim that those with CATV and HSI suddenly get a $15 "discount". You don't pull a Verizon and charge a good rate of $35 for DSL while requiring the customer to take their overpriced POTS and local voice service.

Or pull a Cablevision/Optimum Online ruse where you offer the service for $29.95/month, then magically raise the rates by 50% in a little over 1 year's time, and reduce the "discount" by 50% also, to a marginal $5 for those with family cable or above.
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You be honest about the bundling.

You don't pull a friggin' Comcast and magically raise the rate $15 (over 30% increase), then claim that those with CATV and HSI suddenly get a $15 "discount". You don't pull a Verizon and charge a good rate of $35 for DSL while requiring the customer to take their overpriced POTS and local voice service. There's no discount as they charge $15 more than they should for the "features" that people generally want like caller ID or wishing to not be listed in their phone directory.

What SBC is doing is not only giving the discount off their normal DSL rate but also a small discount off of the normal DN price. That's a real deal (so long as they don't continue raping customers with consistent price increases for POTS related services).
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7466933 Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:11:13 EDT Damned If They Do/Don't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7466792 ArchAngel21x : It seems to me that the companies are stuck. If they don't offer discounts to people who get more than once service from them, people complain. Once they do offer a discount for buying more than one service, people complain they are being penalized for wanting only one service. So the one million dollar question is how do you please both groups of people?
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