 DHRacerFire Survivor
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Re: Period? Quote from article:
Verizon has issued a chilly response to AT&T's announcement yesterday that it would sell bundled services in New York.
"Our bundled DSL offer is $29.95 period with no price jumps or surprises. One bill is available to millions of ourcustomers, not in just one state, and not 'eventually,'" Verizon spokeswoman Bobbi Henson told internetnews.com. "AT&T's new offering is several popsicles short of a full box."
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Sell the services in New York and that is "not in just one state" itself?
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 PathfinderDazed ConfusedPremium
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Mount Vernon, NY | What are you saying? Verizon's freedom packages are available all over not just in NY.
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 TonyPremium
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Natrona Heights, PA | reply to DHRacer
said by DHRacer:
Sell the services in New York and that is "not in just one state" itself?
Right.
AT&T is marketing this package in the Empire state.
AT&T, based in Morristown, N.J., said it would offer DSL service (through Covad Communications) along with local and long-distance service to its customers in the Empire State, which an eye toward rolling out to a dozen other states.
The verizon deal is available nationwide.
Hence the comment
"Our bundled DSL offer is $29.95 period with no price jumps or surprises. One bill is available to millions of our customers, not in just one state, and not 'eventually,'
Period.
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 calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | The Verizon deal isn't "nationwide"--I can't get it because Verizon continues to refuse to compete against SBC.
Market division, on of the "per se" antitrust violations, is a crime when anyone other than a Baby Bell does it.
When Verizon drops its "territory fixing" agreements with SBC, Qwest, and Bell South and really competes for customers, then we'll see what kind of company they are. Until then, they remain a monopoly too chicken to duke it out with the other big guys....
Calvoiper
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TonyPremium
join:2002-01-12
Natrona Heights, PA | Good point Calvoiper. Thanks for pointing that out. Should of put a disclaimer "not available in all area's". |
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It not that Verizon refuse to compete with SBC. Verizon has to get the new bundling plans approved by each state's PUC before they can offer it. Example: Here in Texas SBC came out with a plan that bundled local call, local toll calls, long distance, and other calling features this past spring. About 2 month after that, Verizon started offering the "Freedom" package in Texas. At some point the "Freedom" package will be "nation". Just give Verizon time. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | said by JeremyRM:
It not that Verizon refuse to compete with SBC. Verizon has to get the new bundling plans approved by each state's PUC before they can offer it. ....
This misses the point entirely and is total hogwash besides.
The point is that VZ won't compete "out of territory"--yes, it's in Texas--in old GTE territory. Ivan won't take on Big Ed--it's part of a "wink, wink" strategy to avoid the biggies competing with each other. (VZ promised to compete as part of one of its merger authorizations, but has not complied with its promise. Of course, the FCC doesn't seem to care.) VZ wants to keep its own monopoly status "in territory", so it doesn't challenge SBC, Bell South, or Qwest on their own turf--that way they don't challenge VZ either.
On the claim that these new pricing plans need to be individually approved, almost every state has eliminated the old extensive process of "prior approval". If there is any way the new plan can be considered a price decrease, it is automatically allowed to go into effect in most states.
It's not any state regulatory environment that's stopping the Baby Bells from competing against each other--it's only their reluctance to compete with a true peer that's holding them back
Calvoiper
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