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J D McDorce
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join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
reply to hqh510

Re: Comcast Bandwidth Exceeded Notice!!!

I wonder what one can expect if/when they raise the download caps.


MrBradTX

join:2001-05-23
Carrollton, TX

»www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp

Under "Prohibited Uses And Activities:"
quote:
(vii) restrict, inhibit, or otherwise interfere with the ability of any other person, regardless of intent, purpose or knowledge, to use or enjoy the Service, including, without limitation, posting or transmitting any information or software which contains a worm, virus, or other harmful feature, or generating levels of traffic sufficient to impede others' ability to send or retrieve information;
Under "Newsgroups:"
quote:
Comcast permits users of the Service to download a maximum of one gigabyte (1GB) of newsgroup content in any one month, unless users are subject to a Service plan that permits downloading more newsgroup content.
Under "Violation of Acceptable Use Policy:"
quote:
Comcast does not routinely monitor the activity of Service accounts for violation of this AUP. However, in our efforts to promote good citizenship within the Internet community, we will respond appropriately if we become aware of inappropriate use of our Service. Although Comcast has no obligation to monitor the Service and/or the network, Comcast and its suppliers reserve the right at any time to monitor bandwidth, usage, transmissions, and content from time to time to operate the Service; to identify violations of this Policy; and/or to protect the network, the Service and Comcast users.
So if the AUP is to be believed, either someone ratted you out, or your bandwidth consumption was so outrageously high that it stood out from the crowd and was noticed.

What I truly found disturbing was this little gem, also under "Prohibited Used and Activities:"
quote:
(ii) post, store, send, transmit, or disseminate any information or material which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive, indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is unlawful;
Under this clause, the image posted earlier in this thread of a steaming pile of crap could be considered a AUP violation.

(EDIT: spelling)
[text was edited by author 2003-08-14 14:53:16]

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said by MrBradTX:
»www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp

What I truly found disturbing was this little gem, also under "Prohitited Used and Activities:"
quote:
(ii) post, store, send, transmit, or disseminate any information or material which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive, indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is unlawful;
Under this clause, the image posted earlier in this thread of a steaming pile of crap could be considered a AUP violation.
As could the proceeding paragraph from Comcast terms.


J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
reply to MrBradTX
said by MrBradTX:
Under this clause, the image posted earlier in this thread of a steaming pile of crap could be considered a AUP violation.
Only if it were posted from a Comcast account.


FFH5
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5

reply to J D McDorce
said by J D McDorce:
I wonder what one can expect if/when they raise the download caps.
After reading the scanned letter posted here I don't see anything that says it was download that was exceeded. Maybe it was a server running and the upload was running full burst. That is what would normally trigger a letter from the abuse and fraud team. Maybe a virus on the system has spawned a server process or some file sharing may be going on.
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[text was edited by author 2003-08-14 15:04:18]


JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
reply to J D McDorce
said by J D McDorce:
said by MrBradTX:
Under this clause, the image posted earlier in this thread of a steaming pile of crap could be considered a AUP violation.
Only if it were posted from a Comcast account.
Right on JD! I'm not bound by any such restrictions!

But even so, I only transmitted text (the url of the image), not the actual image.


hbreg
Premium
join:2000-11-09
Feasterville Trevose, PA
said by JTRockville:

But even so, I only transmitted text (the url of the image), not the actual image.
JT, sshh, next us Comcast customers will see transmitting text will be against the AUP. LOL


hqh510

join:2001-03-24
Manassas, VA
reply to MrBradTX
I think the bandwidth consumption was outrageous to them that I stood out. I never boasted about how much I downloaded to people, so that isn't going to the reason for this notice.

said by MrBradTX:

So if the AUP is to be believed, either someone ratted you out, or your bandwidth consumption was so outrageously high that it stood out from the crowd and was noticed.
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hqh510

join:2001-03-24
Manassas, VA
reply to FFH5
Nah, there's no virus on my computer nor do I run a server. I just have my computer on to capture the Internet radio streams, using at least 43% of the bandwidth.

said by FFH5:
After reading the scanned letter posted here I don't see anything that says it was download that was exceeded. Maybe it was a server running and the upload was running full burst. That is what would normally trigger a letter from the abuse and fraud team. Maybe a virus on the system has spawned a server process or some file sharing may be going on.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:
said by J D McDorce:
I wonder what one can expect if/when they raise the download caps.
After reading the scanned letter posted here I don't see anything that says it was download that was exceeded. Maybe it was a server running and the upload was running full burst. That is what would normally trigger a letter from the abuse and fraud team. Maybe a virus on the system has spawned a server process or some file sharing may be going on.
In a recent bandwidth usage cap discussion (How much bandwitch is acceptable at comcast?), I specifically asked about upstream utilization on a cable network. JD quickly referred me to Comcast's revolutionary network management model, which dispels the myth that high utilization of upstream bandwidth will degrade the network.


SolarPup
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reply to MrBradTX
Yeah but that's newsgroup content.. that's not the service content itself... and honestly if it's not in the AUP stating specifically what the max is, then they have no room to bitch. Unless someone is really complaining about slow speeds, (which could be on their node), then they need to detail what the rate limits are...
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dataguy5

@stargus.com
reply to MrBradTX
you realize that you are probably costing them more than $60 in transport bandwidth costs at their peering points, not to mention the capital to support you. I have adelphia so I am not sure how much you pay, but thats more than I pay for my service.


dataguy6

@stargus.com
In other words you are costing them more than you are giving them in which case I woudl boot you off the network. The guy claiming to do 200 GB a month is costing them more than $350 in bandwidth to support him per month.

How many of you would be willing to pay $300 for unlimited access? not me

How many of you would be willing to pay $100 a month for a high usage limit? I might