 whizkid3Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-21
Queens, NY
kudos:8 | reply to Karl Bode
Re: Where's the President? quote:
Are you then implying that people who do not pay taxes will not receive health-care?
Just as in other countries, all citizens and permanent residents of the USA will be entitled to health-care. This includes the 30% or more of working, taxpaying families who receive no health-care now.
Call it socialism; call it whatever you like. It is certainly better than what we have now. It will cost us less, improve out standard of living, our infant mortality rate, and our life expectancy.
Guys/girls like you love to attach a negative 'tag' to something (like socialism, liberal, tax-and-spend), in spite of the possible benefits of the idea(s); solely to disparage it without any real thought or discussion; and to be able to stick to the party line; right or wrong.
It is not, and never will be "socialism eating our country". Right now lawsuits, and the growing economic gap between the rich and poor is eating our country. We used to have the highest standard of living of any country in the world. We no longer have that; and it is not because of welfare or socialism. Quit being a miser. |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium
join:2002-09-06
Houston, TX
kudos:6 | I'm referring to people who don't make enough money to pay any taxes.
At any rate, socialist medicine has many disadvantages, including the long wait times for MRI's and "non-essential" surgeries. Many Canadians travel south for adequate healthcare.
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 bbrownMay Peace Prevail On Earth
join:2002-03-23
Earth | And many Americans travel to Canada fro certain health-care needs (like prescription drugs) |
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AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium
join:2002-09-06
Houston, TX
kudos:6 | Indeed, but a small price to pay for the best healthcare in the world. |
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bbrownMay Peace Prevail On Earth
join:2002-03-23
Earth | Small price for you maybe, but the people who can't afford health insurance or don't have a plan provided by their employer, the price isn't so small.
I have a problem with telling someone who has an illness and is not looking for elective surgery, but necessary care "sorry, no health care for you if you can't pay" so that some people can have elective surgery when they feel like it, even if they are relatively healthy without the surgery.
The person most in need of health care should get treatment before I can get treatment for something that isn't even necessary (if it was necessary, it wouldn't be elective). |
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whizkid3Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-21
Queens, NY
kudos:8 | reply to Karl Bode
quote:
And many Americans travel to Canada fro certain health-care needs (like prescription drugs)
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Indeed, but a small price to pay for the best healthcare in the world.
Thats right, traveling to Canada to receive the best health-care in the world, is indeed a small price to pay.
Ameritech, I hope you don't mistakenly believe that we have the best health-care in the world? A greater % of the money you spend on health-care in the USA, goes to insurance, and lawyers, than anywhere else. As well, the price we pay for health-care, is the most expensive in the world. Meanwhile, many countries with national health-care programs, now have a better standard of living (which in part is based on health-care as well as health-care expenses), infant mortality rate, and life expectancy. They are moving ahead in comparison to the USA.
It is time to fix this problem, before you or your employer can't afford increasingly sub-standard health-care either. |
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