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 JubcooPremium
join:2002-09-23
Cleveland, OH | reply to russotto
Re: Someone has to say it I know where you failure is, you don't have to tell me. What Israel has done is step on someone else's foot with all its might, and when that someone had the nerve to defend himself, turned around to the world and said "See? see what terrorism I have to put up with???" Syrians shell Israeli civilian population centers, and the Israelis call it an act of war. A Palestinian 14-year-old tosses a rock at a fully armed and uniformed soldier and it's called an act of terrorism. Go ahead and Google that one away.
How is shelling towns not an act of war? A 14 year old rock armed boy is not a terrorism, and I cannot recall Israel ever labeling one as that. If it were simple rock throwing youth, there would be no intifada. The terrorists hide behind the 14 year old, with the child often resulting as a casualty of crossfire. You sound like you're suggesting Israel has provoked other nations. I cannot recall a recent example of this happening. As for Syrian backed Hizbollah, which shells Israeli towns, they are obviously a terrorist group. Prior to September 11th, they have killed more Americans than any other terrorist group.
Ariel Sharon has actually moved towards the center. During the 80s, he was staunchy against a Palestinian state, as was the Likud platform. He singehandedly managed to shift the Likud stance to be favorable towards an eventual Palestinian state.
And please stop with the google references. Google is simply a convenient research tool. | |
 ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium
join:2001-07-19
Merrimack, NH | One more time, I'm not russotto.
said by Jubcoo:
How is shelling towns not an act of war?
You misunderstand: What I said was that when Syria's miliatry attacks Israeli civilians, it's called an act of war (when it should be called an act of terrorism), while Palestinian attacks against Israeli military personel are called terrorism. This should be an obvious double standard.
said by Jubcoo:
A 14 year old rock armed boy is not a terrorism, and I cannot recall Israel ever labeling one as that.
Then I have no idea which Israel on which planet you're referring to. Israel has used the terrorism term to label any and all Palestinian actions against its military, except possibly the use of strong language. said by Jubcoo:
The terrorists hide behind the 14 year old, with the child often resulting as a casualty of crossfire.
And the 8-year-old Israeli girl blown up on a bus in the West Bank, who didn't ask to be born, didn't choose her parents, didn't ask to be put on the altar of their ideology - whose victim is she? said by Jubcoo:
You sound like you're suggesting Israel has provoked other nations. I cannot recall a recent example of this happening.
Of course not, because Palestinians are conveniently not "a nation" in the classic sense, they are not a country, so provoking them "doesn't count." You live on land that's been in your family for generations, and one night an army knocks on your door and evicts you, and the next thing you know, folks from Kiev and Brooklyn live on your land and use your water, and you have absolutely no legal recourse. I don't know about you, but that sure would provoke the hell out of me. said by Jubcoo:
Ariel Sharon has actually moved towards the center. During the 80s, he was staunchy against a Palestinian state, as was the Likud platform. He singehandedly managed to shift the Likud stance to be favorable towards an eventual Palestinian state.
And singlehandedly did everything in his power and more to make sure it never happens. It's so much easier to get an entire party behind you when you tell them "shhhh... don't tell anyone, this is just a front, just a way to show the Americans we're reasonable. We've pushed the Palestinians far enough into terrorism that they'll never meet the criteria of the American road map so none of it is ever going to happen anyway. Costs us nothing to say we're committed to it." | |
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