 ravitalJust Another Pesky Independent Nh VoterPremium join:2001-07-19 Merrimack, NH | reply to Jubcoo
Re: Someone has to say it One more time, I'm not russotto. said by Jubcoo:
How is shelling towns not an act of war?
You misunderstand: What I said was that when Syria's miliatry attacks Israeli civilians, it's called an act of war (when it should be called an act of terrorism), while Palestinian attacks against Israeli military personel are called terrorism. This should be an obvious double standard. said by Jubcoo: A 14 year old rock armed boy is not a terrorism, and I cannot recall Israel ever labeling one as that.
Then I have no idea which Israel on which planet you're referring to. Israel has used the terrorism term to label any and all Palestinian actions against its military, except possibly the use of strong language. said by Jubcoo: The terrorists hide behind the 14 year old, with the child often resulting as a casualty of crossfire.
And the 8-year-old Israeli girl blown up on a bus in the West Bank, who didn't ask to be born, didn't choose her parents, didn't ask to be put on the altar of their ideology - whose victim is she? said by Jubcoo: You sound like you're suggesting Israel has provoked other nations. I cannot recall a recent example of this happening.
Of course not, because Palestinians are conveniently not "a nation" in the classic sense, they are not a country, so provoking them "doesn't count." You live on land that's been in your family for generations, and one night an army knocks on your door and evicts you, and the next thing you know, folks from Kiev and Brooklyn live on your land and use your water, and you have absolutely no legal recourse. I don't know about you, but that sure would provoke the hell out of me. said by Jubcoo: Ariel Sharon has actually moved towards the center. During the 80s, he was staunchy against a Palestinian state, as was the Likud platform. He singehandedly managed to shift the Likud stance to be favorable towards an eventual Palestinian state.
And singlehandedly did everything in his power and more to make sure it never happens. It's so much easier to get an entire party behind you when you tell them "shhhh... don't tell anyone, this is just a front, just a way to show the Americans we're reasonable. We've pushed the Palestinians far enough into terrorism that they'll never meet the criteria of the American road map so none of it is ever going to happen anyway. Costs us nothing to say we're committed to it." |