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garagerock
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Louisville, KY

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Oh, but our government will spend 87 Freakin' Billion dollars on our involvement in the war in Iraq.

How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.

It's time to see where our priorities are. This never ending blank check to be the world's policeman is not only making us more and more unpopular, it is draining our national resources. Defend the country first, not the rest of the planet all at once.
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josephjoe

join:2002-09-08
Chicago, IL

I agree with you garagerock we get "details of possible Iraq weapons of mass destruction" from sources. So the government pulls out their checkbook... Iraqi destroy and rebuild. The newest game.j/k Other worldwide conflict don't worry there's a blank gov't check when not if u need it. Maybe if terrorist threaten us if we don't have fiber.... anyway its a big problem if the government builds a network that the people want because phone company's "cant compete" their too worried about their bottom line to understand the need to build this necessary infrastructure. sad



footballdude
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Imperial, MO

reply to garagerock

said by garagerock:
How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.

It's time to see where our priorities are.
Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up. It would be wrong to destroy their government and much of their infrastructure and then just walk away amidst all the chaos. When you compare a moral obligation like that to a luxury like high speed internet, I think our priorities are just fine.


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reply to garagerock

said by garagerock:
Oh, but our government will spend 87 Freakin' Billion dollars on our involvement in the war in Iraq.

How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.

It's time to see where our priorities are. This never ending blank check to be the world's policeman is not only making us more and more unpopular, it is draining our national resources. Defend the country first, not the rest of the planet all at once.

I agree with you very much! WHat a friekn waste of money.. ANd now he wants the UN's help but wants the Americans to lead the way.. SO where are the WMD's?? Thats alot Bush I will remember not to vote for you again.
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zabes63

join:2003-04-05
Batavia, IL

reply to footballdude

said by footballdude:
Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up.
I agree, we broke it we need to fix it. This and the fact that the one thing that Saddam took away from the first Gulf War was that he didn't need to beat us, he just needed to outlast us.

I did not appreciate that my patriotism was called into question because I wanted factual, realistic answers to tough questions from my government prior to the bullets flying.

Now, we're stuck with paying for this fiasco, like it or not.
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blackjeep

join:2001-07-12
Atlanta, GA

reply to footballdude
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way. This same man had the capability to build a nuclear and biological arsenal(maybe he already did, or maybe he didn't) but the fact remains that he had the capability, and as a global superpower, we have a responsibility to protect our allies, our neighbors and ourselves, but we also must consider those under the ruling thumb of a terroristic threat such as Sadaam Hussein.



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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said by blackjeep:
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way.
So what about North Korea?

Aren't they a BIGGER threat?

Why didn't we tackle them first, instead of worrying about powerless Saddam?


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reply to footballdude
"Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up."

No, this only compounds the error. We (the USA) were wrong to attack to Iraq, and we're equally wrong to "rebuild" it.



Agent 86

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reply to fifty nine
"Why didn't we tackle them first, instead of worrying about powerless Saddam?"

The Iraq war happened precisely *because* Saddam was powerless.

You don't attack the strong; you attack the weak.



morbo
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reply to blackjeep

said by blackjeep:
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way. This same man had the capability to build a nuclear and biological arsenal(maybe he already did, or maybe he didn't) but the fact remains that he had the capability, and as a global superpower, we have a responsibility to protect our allies, our neighbors and ourselves, but we also must consider those under the ruling thumb of a terroristic threat such as Sadaam Hussein.
stop trying to justify the war the u.s. waged on lies from the CIA and other intelligence agencies. morally, the u.s. was wrong for going to war for oil, is wrong for staying there to police the oil, and will continue to be wrong until people wake up and see that you were deceived. there were no nuclear weapons. there is no tie to al qaeda. it amazes me how people forget these simple facts.
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join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS

reply to fifty nine
NO. We gave him some food and funds to buy food. Haven't heard from him since. It was all posturizing just like the Russians did in the cold war. Look where there at now. plus China and Russia told him to pipe down too.



SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

reply to Agent 86

said by Agent 86:
"Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up."

No, this only compounds the error. We (the USA) were wrong to attack to Iraq, and we're equally wrong to "rebuild" it.


That depends entirely on what exactly the U.S. is doing about rebuilding Iraq. Though I agree with the if we broke it we have to fix it philosophy I am very suspect of what the intentions and expectations are with rebuilding Iraq. Are we truly doing it for the good of that country or are we leveraging for something else? Oil? A political foothold in the Middle East? Military staging area for more countries to be attacked?

I agree with zabes63. I am a patriotic citizen of the United States of America. I want answers!
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garagerock
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Louisville, KY

reply to footballdude

said by footballdude:
said by garagerock:
How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.

It's time to see where our priorities are.
Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up. It would be wrong to destroy their government and much of their infrastructure and then just walk away amidst all the chaos. When you compare a moral obligation like that to a luxury like high speed internet, I think our priorities are just fine.
That logic is so flawed I can't even begin to address it. Whether I agreed or not? I sure as hell didn't agree.

I feel no "moral obligation" to pay for GWB's cleanup of his own mess. Wait...that's what the UN is for! Oh right-we couldn't wait anymore for their "diplomacy"...too soft.
So now we, as the taxpayers, have to foot the bill for his screwup? I think they need to answer these questions first:

1. Where are the WMD?
2. Where is Saddam?
3. Where is Osama bin Laden?

Until we get accurate answers to these questions that are verified by an outside source, I don't feel the need to contribute one more penny of my tax dollars for this debauchery.
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SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

Keep all that in mind come next election. We are stuck with Bush since he was voted in office. He represents us and when he screws us yes, we do have to pay for it. Hopefully the next president (I hope to God it's nobody like Bush) will find a way to fix all this mess.
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reply to zabes63
Yes, I agree, we screwed it up, we must try and fix it, but this is a total snafu now, and I think just throwing money and soldiers at it is a total waste.

War on Terror my ass. Half the Iraqi's think we're the terrorists now, and rightly or wrongly, how is our current actions going to "Fix" that?

Bush & Co. are on record saying "We will not let Iraqi become a fundamentalist state."

Oh really? How are you going to stop the Iraqi people from doing that? Kill them all?

It's sure gotta suck being a soldier patrolling the streets in Iraqi. Can't tell friend from foe, some of them spit at you and tell you to go home, and you're never sure where a bullet with your name on it might come from.
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KrK
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reply to SRFireside

said by SRFireside:
Keep all that in mind come next election. We are stuck with Bush since he was voted in office.
Well, he wasn't really voted into office, at least not by the majority, but that's another issue.

Re-Defeat Bush in 2004!
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reply to garagerock

said by garagerock:
Oh, but our government will spend 87 Freakin' Billion dollars on our involvement in the war in Iraq.
You forget this latest 87 billion is on top of the 85 billion or so Congress already approved.

It's really like 170 billion. FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA

reply to garagerock
Yeah...and $470 billion on a new prescription drug program. You want to cut...let's cut.



oliphant5
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reply to KrK
Clue Required: It's called the Electoral College. Damn ain't the Constitution a bitch? »www.fec.gov/pages/ecworks.htm
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Sarge_0321

join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA

reply to jsouth
And how many people in Africa are stealing the food and money we provide? But you see us trying to sacrifice troops there.

Iraq was a purely GEO-POLITICAL/Resource driven chess game move.

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