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| | Political Message contained...beware Oh, but our government will spend 87 Freakin' Billion dollars on our involvement in the war in Iraq.
How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.
It's time to see where our priorities are. This never ending blank check to be the world's policeman is not only making us more and more unpopular, it is draining our national resources. Defend the country first, not the rest of the planet all at once.
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|  | | Re: Political Message contained...beware I agree with you garagerock we get "details of possible Iraq weapons of mass destruction" from sources. So the government pulls out their checkbook... Iraqi destroy and rebuild. The newest game.j/k Other worldwide conflict don't worry there's a blank gov't check when not if u need it. Maybe if terrorist threaten us if we don't have fiber.... anyway its a big problem if the government builds a network that the people want because phone company's "cant compete" their too worried about their bottom line to understand the need to build this necessary infrastructure. sad | |
| | | said by garagerock:
How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.
It's time to see where our priorities are.
Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up. It would be wrong to destroy their government and much of their infrastructure and then just walk away amidst all the chaos. When you compare a moral obligation like that to a luxury like high speed internet, I think our priorities are just fine. | |
| | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware said by footballdude:
Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up.
I agree, we broke it we need to fix it. This and the fact that the one thing that Saddam took away from the first Gulf War was that he didn't need to beat us, he just needed to outlast us.
I did not appreciate that my patriotism was called into question because I wanted factual, realistic answers to tough questions from my government prior to the bullets flying.
Now, we're stuck with paying for this fiasco, like it or not.
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware Yes, I agree, we screwed it up, we must try and fix it, but this is a total snafu now, and I think just throwing money and soldiers at it is a total waste.
War on Terror my ass. Half the Iraqi's think we're the terrorists now, and rightly or wrongly, how is our current actions going to "Fix" that?
Bush & Co. are on record saying "We will not let Iraqi become a fundamentalist state."
Oh really? How are you going to stop the Iraqi people from doing that? Kill them all?
It's sure gotta suck being a soldier patrolling the streets in Iraqi. Can't tell friend from foe, some of them spit at you and tell you to go home, and you're never sure where a bullet with your name on it might come from.
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| | | WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way. This same man had the capability to build a nuclear and biological arsenal(maybe he already did, or maybe he didn't) but the fact remains that he had the capability, and as a global superpower, we have a responsibility to protect our allies, our neighbors and ourselves, but we also must consider those under the ruling thumb of a terroristic threat such as Sadaam Hussein. | |
| | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware said by blackjeep:
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way.
So what about North Korea?
Aren't they a BIGGER threat?
Why didn't we tackle them first, instead of worrying about powerless Saddam? | |
| | | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware "Why didn't we tackle them first, instead of worrying about powerless Saddam?"
The Iraq war happened precisely *because* Saddam was powerless.
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Wichita, KS | NO. We gave him some food and funds to buy food. Haven't heard from him since. It was all posturizing just like the Russians did in the cold war. Look where there at now. plus China and Russia told him to pipe down too. | |
| | | | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware And how many people in Africa are stealing the food and money we provide? But you see us trying to sacrifice troops there.
Iraq was a purely GEO-POLITICAL/Resource driven chess game move.
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Falls Church, VA | said by fifty nine:
said by blackjeep:
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way.
So what about North Korea?
Aren't they a BIGGER threat?
Why didn't we tackle them first, instead of worrying about powerless Saddam?
Let's see how N. Korea and Iraq compare, shall we?
Iraq
- Real WMD's limited to biologics -- nasty, but we have bio-hazard suits. Nuclear options non-existent.
- Surrounded by weak nation-states not likely to be able to retaliate against us except with guerilla-style attacks. These are bad, but lack large-scale destructiveness.
- Oil!
N. Korea
- Already has nuclear weapons, one or two of which may be capable of hitting the continental US, certainly capable of hitting allied states such as Japan.
- Surrounded by more powerful nation states such as China and Russia who would take a dim view of us playing in their back yard.
- No Oil!
Questions?
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kudos:4 | said by fifty nine:
said by blackjeep:
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way.
So what about North Korea?
Aren't they a BIGGER threat?
Why didn't we tackle them first, instead of worrying about powerless Saddam?
North korea doesnt have uhmmmmmm 63% of the worlds !OIL! either.
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00000 | said by blackjeep:
WELL SAID!!! Those of you who think higher speeds of internet service are a higher priority than what we've taken on in Iraq are downright sad yourselves! You're worried about how fast your next download is going to be, and they were living under a dictator who had no qualms about shooting one of his citizens dead for looking at him or his men the wrong way. This same man had the capability to build a nuclear and biological arsenal(maybe he already did, or maybe he didn't) but the fact remains that he had the capability, and as a global superpower, we have a responsibility to protect our allies, our neighbors and ourselves, but we also must consider those under the ruling thumb of a terroristic threat such as Sadaam Hussein.
stop trying to justify the war the u.s. waged on lies from the CIA and other intelligence agencies. morally, the u.s. was wrong for going to war for oil, is wrong for staying there to police the oil, and will continue to be wrong until people wake up and see that you were deceived. there were no nuclear weapons. there is no tie to al qaeda. it amazes me how people forget these simple facts.
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| | | "Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up."
No, this only compounds the error. We (the USA) were wrong to attack to Iraq, and we're equally wrong to "rebuild" it. | |
| | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware said by Agent 86:
"Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up."
No, this only compounds the error. We (the USA) were wrong to attack to Iraq, and we're equally wrong to "rebuild" it.
That depends entirely on what exactly the U.S. is doing about rebuilding Iraq. Though I agree with the if we broke it we have to fix it philosophy I am very suspect of what the intentions and expectations are with rebuilding Iraq. Are we truly doing it for the good of that country or are we leveraging for something else? Oil? A political foothold in the Middle East? Military staging area for more countries to be attacked?
I agree with zabes63. I am a patriotic citizen of the United States of America. I want answers!
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| | | said by footballdude:
said by garagerock:
How many homes, cities, counties, states, and towns could we put fiber to for 87 billion dollars? Oh right, all of them.
It's time to see where our priorities are.
Whether you agreed or not with the decision to take out Iraq, we now have a moral obligation to help rebuild what we blew up. It would be wrong to destroy their government and much of their infrastructure and then just walk away amidst all the chaos. When you compare a moral obligation like that to a luxury like high speed internet, I think our priorities are just fine.
That logic is so flawed I can't even begin to address it. Whether I agreed or not? I sure as hell didn't agree.
I feel no "moral obligation" to pay for GWB's cleanup of his own mess. Wait...that's what the UN is for! Oh right-we couldn't wait anymore for their "diplomacy"...too soft.
So now we, as the taxpayers, have to foot the bill for his screwup? I think they need to answer these questions first:
1. Where are the WMD?
2. Where is Saddam?
3. Where is Osama bin Laden?
Until we get accurate answers to these questions that are verified by an outside source, I don't feel the need to contribute one more penny of my tax dollars for this debauchery.
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| | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware Keep all that in mind come next election. We are stuck with Bush since he was voted in office. He represents us and when he screws us yes, we do have to pay for it. Hopefully the next president (I hope to God it's nobody like Bush) will find a way to fix all this mess.
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware said by SRFireside:
Keep all that in mind come next election. We are stuck with Bush since he was voted in office.
Well, he wasn't really voted into office, at least not by the majority, but that's another issue.
Re-Defeat Bush in 2004!
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Corona, CA | Re: Political Message contained...beware Clue Required: It's called the Electoral College. Damn ain't the Constitution a bitch? »www.fec.gov/pages/ecworks.htm
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware Actually, it's a company called "Choicepoint" and a certain Mrs Harris who had thousands of valid, eligible registered democrat voters disenfranchised in Florida.... which went to to Bush by only 537 votes... and then the Electoral College took over, but hey, I don't expect you to let the facts get in the way of a good political bias.
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware Let's see the proof of this "disenfranchisement".
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware said by oliphant5:
Let's see the proof of this "disenfranchisement".
You haven't heard about this, or were you kidding?
Here's an official Govt. report on the investigation:
»www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch2.htm
Basically what happened was a company called Choicepoint (DBT Online) was hired to purge voter rolls of ineligible voters. Due to mistakes and an erronous list from Texas, over 8,000, eligible voters, almost all of them minorities, were listed as felons and disenfranchised wrongly... but it gets worse: More names were removed because of sloppy name matching. Basically people who had names that were similar to a felon's name were also struck. For example, let's say there was a felon with the name of "John Smith"... but your name was "Johnathan Smith" and were the same race as the felon. Result: You were washed out, and couldn't vote.
It's unknown the exact number of people barred from voting, but given the state was won by only 537 votes it seems highly probable Bush would of lost the election.
It's quite an interesting story, but, somewhat moot now. I suspect Florida will be under a microscope come 2004 elections. If they screw up again it could mean big trouble.
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware Okay, and how many votes decided who won the state of Texas? Less than 8,000? And who hired Choicepoint? Who appropriated the money for it? (BTW these are rhetorical questions) And don't forget, there are no discounted votes, only discounted ballots, and they happen in EVERY election, every precinct.
As for Florida, every time the votes were counted (by Democrats BTW) Gore lost. Even when only the counties that Gore wanted recounted were recounted he still lost. Let's not forget the media's role in Florida as they called the state even before the polls in the Republican dominated pan handle were closed. The ballots in Florida were recounted twice, plus additional times in Democrat controlled counties and NEVER was Gore ahead in the count. As for election issues all you have to look at is the illegal votes for Loretta Sanchez here in SoCal...and now with driver licenses for illegals that our "on the way out" Gov just passed there will be even more election fraud in California.
If Gore was interested in a "fair" count of the votes, why didn't he request a recount of the entire state instead of just selecting Democrat controlled counties? Sure, he would do it "if Bush went along with it". He should have just demanded it. But of course he wasn't looking for votes...just "his" votes.
Even after additional recounts by the Miami Herald, USA Today and the Herald's parent company, Knight Ridder after all was said and done the results were the same. Bush won Florida.
It's a tough loss for the Gore team but that's the electoral college process. Instead of crying over the Florida election Democrat constituents should be pushing the new Democratic contenders to send a message for what they stand for and why I as a Republican should consider voting for them other than the typical lack of substance, vision and "Bush Sucks" rhetoric we always hear. What is THEIR solution for the economy? What is THEIR solution for the terrorist threat? What are THEY going to do to make MY life better? Are THEY going to close the borders, fix the roads, invest in American infrastructure, lower my tax burden, stop the free trade with countries our labor can't compete pricewise with like China, are they going to continue protecting us as Clinton did, from foreign schemes to destroy our economy like Kyoto?
I'm not 100% content with Bush...hell not even 60% (I'm pro-abortion rights, believe gays should be permitted "civil unions" to benefit from the same laws (taxes, survivorships, adoption etc) that married couples benefit from, don't believe prayer has a place in school, don't agree with the prescription drug benefit, anti-free trade with countries that have no real labor protections like China, anti-Kissing ass of Mexico and well as disagreeing with a slew of other Bush policies like his hypocritical stance with Isreal)...if other conservative/moderate Democrats like Leiberman (who's running) and Biden (who isn't) put out their vision for the economy, national security, corporate corruption, infrastructure investment and education I'll seriously examine them. But as long as they continue spouting the extremist Bush stole Florida, soak the rich, welfare entitlement expansion, business is evil, nationalized heathcare, socialist spend spend spend B.S. that they always do they will continue suffering defeats and will continue losing moderate Republican votes.
I want to vote for the guy/gal who will leave me alone the most I don't care what party he/she's with. In the meantime, all politicians suck we just all have to decide for ourselves who sucks the least and for me...as I look at my horrid commute, overpriced housing, illegal immigration ruining our schools, Democrats running Cali into bankruptcy and the successor Democrat looking for another $10 billion in new taxes I can't afford for me here in SoCal, giving illegals driver licenses so that now they can vote with ease, buy guns with ease, identity theft is easy, obtaining multiple identities is easy (and now the Feds are threatening not to accept Cali driver licenses to reenter the country (from Canada or Mexico), they're giving illegals more rights than citizens, Republicans seem to be the party I most agree with. If I was in Connecticut or Maine I might think differently.
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware said by oliphant5:
And who hired Choicepoint? Who appropriated the money for it? (BTW these are rhetorical questions) And don't forget, there are no discounted votes, only discounted ballots, and they happen in EVERY election, every precinct.
That's where Mrs Harris came in. quote:
As for Florida, every time the votes were counted (by Democrats BTW) Gore lost.
That was the point tho. Many Gore voters were blocked from voting, it wasn't so much the recount (which I can understand given how close it was) but the problems with the voting in the first place. 537 votes is a mighty slim margin, so you can see why people were upset they weren't allowed to vote. quote:
Even after additional recounts by the Miami Herald, USA Today and the Herald's parent company, Knight Ridder after all was said and done the results were the same. Bush won Florida.
I don't think anyone disputes that of the votes cast, Bush won, just. The problem was many votes weren't cast, not because people didn't want to, or couldn't read their ballot, or whatever, but because they had been wrongfully struck from voter rolls. That report was a result of the Fed's investigation into it. Personally I don't buy any of the conspiracy arguments, myself, but I do think it was very sloppy proceedure and a general attitude of "Who Cares, they weren't voting for us anyway." kinda deal.
Of course, prior to the election, nobody knew how close it was going to be, nor that Florida would be *the* determining state.
As to your points about the Democrats, I would agree. They aren't doing a very good job of campaigning and getting their points across. Keep an eye on Dean tho, he's got early momentum. IMHO Bush has almost a lock on the election as of now, as much as that pisses me off, because I don't like Bush. On the other hand I don't really see much in the Democrat camp to take heart of, either, so, I have no idea really and will have to just keep watching and reading to see how it shakes out. quote:
...as I look at my horrid commute, overpriced housing, illegal immigration ruining our schools, Democrats running Cali into bankruptcy and the successor Democrat looking for another $10 billion in new taxes I can't afford for me here in SoCal, giving illegals driver licenses so that now they can vote with ease, buy guns with ease, identity theft is easy, obtaining multiple identities is easy (and now the Feds are threatening not to accept Cali driver licenses to reenter the country (from Canada or Mexico), they're giving illegals more rights than citizens, Republicans seem to be the party I most agree with.
Well you won't get me arguing California is in a sorry state right now, but I think there's plenty of blame to spread around. Personally I don't really see how the recall or even whoever the next Governor is going to be will fix much out there. And by running the Federal Government deep in the red it will hurt everyone including California. Speaking of which, perhaps as part of the War on Terror we'd be better off spending money securing our own borders, to help curb illegal immigration, drug trafficking, tax evasion et all.
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Corona, CA | Re: Political Message contained...beware said by KrK:
Well you won't get me arguing California is in a sorry state right now, but I think there's plenty of blame to spread around. Personally I don't really see how the recall or even whoever the next Governor is going to be will fix much out there. And by running the Federal Government deep in the red it will hurt everyone including California. Speaking of which, perhaps as part of the War on Terror we'd be better off spending money securing our own borders, to help curb illegal immigration, drug trafficking, tax evasion et all.
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As far as California goes, 100% of the blame can be pointed at California Democrats. They aren't your typical Democrats like Leiberman or Feinstein, here in Sacramento they are socialists. Not a single Republican holds a statewide office and Democrats control the legislature and the Governorship. Now people have brought up the economy but here in Cali, revenue increases have outpaced both population and inflation growth so even with the economic downturn there was PLENTY of money to cover expenses, but the legislature and the governor increased spending 40% in just 4 years. Now that Davis is on the way out his successor wants ANOTHER $10 billion in new taxes, this is in addition to the multi-billion dollar car tax just enacted (illegally). This is in addition to the planned sales tax increase (to over 9% in some counties) and income tax increase (to 13%).
Sure Bush is hanging us out to dry on the immigration issue but there is NO reason we should be budgeting for them. State laws, not Federal are the reason we're spending $8 billion more on illegals than we collect in tax from them. Now they're getting driver licenses which in California is the ONLY ID needed to vote (no one checks).
As I bash Democrats around in here...my idea of what a Democrat is comes the WACK JOBS we have out here on the left coast...not the social moderate, fiscal moderates seen elsewhere. My "anger" stems from the frustration of being called "racist" if I don't want to fund illegals medical and education or being told I'm not paying my fair share in taxes when over 50% of my income is paid in taxes (between state and Federal not including gas taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, so-so-security taxes and all the rest).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware said by oliphant5:
As I bash Democrats around in here...my idea of what a Democrat is comes the WACK JOBS we have out here on the left coast...not the social moderate, fiscal moderates seen elsewhere.
Yeah, like Dick Gephardt isn't a socialist. We've got our share of whack jobs here in the heartland, too. For some reason, they do seem worse in California. | |
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| Re: Political Message contained...beware Gephardt is definitely part of the zero-message Bush sucks B.S. that has lost Democrats both the Congress and the Presidency. Democrats need to put forth more moderate candidates like Leiberman and Biden if they hope to get swing voters and moderate Republicans.
As soon as these Gephardt types put out their B.S. soak the rich socialist rhetoric like the whole Lexus muffler crap I tune right out. But a message like Leiberman's (minus Gore's B.S. from 2000), strong on defense, more fiscally conservative than typical Democrats, social moderate...I have no problem listening to and considering for my vote. In looking at his agenda ( »www.joe2004.com/site/PageServer?···esagenda ) I certainly don't agree with everything, especially on immigration issues but I'm not ruling out voting against Bush if Bush doesn't come around on some issues I feel are important like limiting the effects of the labor cost gap that have us bleeding off jobs to other nations. The way I look at it, if Bush is going to abandon common sense when it comes to the illegal immigration problem (a MASSIVE problem here in Cali) why would I hold it against a Democrat like Leiberman? In that event I have to look at the remaining issues and see who I agree with more and aside from immigration reform I would like to see more protectionist policies and I'm sure not going to get that from Bush but as it looks now, I have a good chance of seeing it from Leiberman.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Political Message contained...beware If you want to vote for Joe Leiberman, you'd better hurry because he's not going to be around for much longer.  Things could change but it looks like Howard Dean is going to carry the nomination (assuming Hillary stays out). Gephardt could make a surprise move because of his union ties but I think he's destined for political retirement and he knows it. Once Dean gets the nomination, the Democrats will sink quickly because Dean will alienate at least half of the country. I think he'd win California, New York, Massachusetts, & Vermont, possibly Illinois, possibly Oregon. Not nearly enough to win it all. | |
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I feel no "moral obligation" to pay for GWB's cleanup of his own mess. Wait...that's what the UN is for! Oh right-we couldn't wait anymore for their "diplomacy"...too soft.
So now we, as the taxpayers, have to foot the bill for his screwup? I think they need to answer these questions first:
1. Where are the WMD?
2. Where is Saddam?
3. Where is Osama bin Laden?
Where do you think the UN gets its money? The vast majority of it comes from the US. What happened in Rwanda a few years ago when the UN was in charge? They stood around and watched while over one million people were slaughtered by warlords. The UN is as ineffective now as the League of Nations was just before WWII.
As for the other questions:
1. You'd better hope we find out before they bite us on the neck. In 1996 when the UN weapons inspectors were thrown out of Iraq, there was a documented arsenal of WMDs. If Saddam had destroyed them, he could have just shown some sort of proof (like a video) of that destruction and taken the steam out of Bush before the invasion. Did he allow himself to be removed from power and get his children killed just out of spite or pride? He's a nutjob so that's possible but theres a strong possibility that those WMDs are still hiding somewhere and ready for use. Have you noticed a large number of US soldiers getting sick lately? Chemical and Bio weapons aren't really all that great on a battlefield because troops are trained and have equipment that minimizes their effect but those kind of weapons are very effective against civilian populations and soldiers that are just kind of standing around not expecting anything to happen (like they are now). I think Saddam's holding on to them because he plans on hiding until the US leaves and then using his weapons to eliminate whoever is in charge of Iraq at that point so he can resume control.
2 & 3. Show me somebody else running for president that knows where either of those two are and maybe I'll vote for him. | |
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Oh, but our government will spend 87 Freakin' Billion dollars on our involvement in the war in Iraq.
You forget this latest 87 billion is on top of the 85 billion or so Congress already approved.
It's really like 170 billion. FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
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