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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY

Sue those bastards

Seriously, customers should gather and sue them for that.
Most of heavy-loaders get illegal stuff so they don't bother.
The rules are not clearly marked and marketing unlimited term is misleading customers, so it can be reported for some federal agency.
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superht1

join:2001-02-22
Kennesaw, GA

Is not that easy my friend, sueing them is like messing with a cop who just stopped you running an orange light!

But people like me are disgusted enough not to recommend to others and not use their very shady services.



MrBradTX

join:2001-05-23
Carrollton, TX

reply to Tomek

said by Tomek:
Most of heavy-loaders get illegal stuff so they don't bother.
The user in question was capturing multiple Internet radio streams 24/7. Last I knew, listening to the radio was not illegal.


JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD

Another subscriber admitted to trading home videos, with remote family members.



Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY

reply to MrBradTX
I said "most" not "all".
That way or another, they should fight.
If I was to receive one of those notices for downloading/uploading anything legit, I would do one of two things
1. Go with competitor
2. File complaint.
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA

said by Tomek:
I said "most" not "all".
That way or another, they should fight.
If I was to receive one of those notices for downloading/uploading anything legit, I would do one of two things
1. Go with competitor
2. File complaint.

And if there were no competitor because the company has a monopoly in your area?
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY

said by Jason Levine:

And if there were no competitor because the company has a monopoly in your area?

Now that sux.
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We are the Borg! Resistance Is Futile! You Will Be Assimilated!


Tembenite

@mindspring.com

How is no specific number vague?

People keep mentioning that Comcasts terms are vague simply because they do not include a hard number which states the "invisible line", and as a result they would have a difficult time in court. This simply is not true. All Comcast has to prove is that your consumption of bandwidth was not normal, and a judge is going to agree with the "undue burdon" clause.

What is normal? While it is definitely a flexible term and open to interpretation, Comcast will not have a difficult time proving that someone who uses 10 times more bandwidth than the average user is putting "undue burdon" on the network. As this article states, a small percentage of the users are accounting for 60-80% of the bandwidth consumption. We're not talking about small differences in bandwidth consumption here.

Personally, if I was a Comcast subscriber, I would not want any hard numbers listed. Once the TOS is not vague, then they are required to respond the same way to ALL people, ALL the time. E.g. If they have a daily limit of x, and a monthly limit of y; right now I might be able to download 1.2x one day, and not hear anything about it as long as this was not a normal occurance. However, once they have a specific limit, they would be required to respond the same to all people who cross that specific limit. As a result, my account would be canceled too, even if this was the only day in the last year that I even came close to the limit. No specific limits allows for more flexibility which is a benifit to both Comcast and their subscribers.


Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY

Well, interesting response, now imagine that the only neighbors U have are grandparents who use internet once a month to check email and You normally use internet everyday (email, browsing, iTunes, Linux, windows Update, etc) Comparing to Ur neighbors, You are abusing network, while in reality 95% of a "pipe" is unused.
So as in legal life, hard written numbers and specific rules are the only way to go. Imagine lawmakers using relative reasoning to pass bills.
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