 kpatzMY HEAD A SPLODEPremium join:2003-06-13 Manchester, NH | reply to dirtweed
Re: Call for participation! Msgr Spam investigatio said by dirtweed: wouldn't it be better to work on the ppl who make the software possible to do this spam? »www.ipmarketer.com/ or »www.fileplanet.com/files/110000/116772.shtml ???????
How about going after the spammers' customers themselves? Go after the sites/companies advertised in the spam. Most every M-spam has either a URL or phone number, start from there. If the product costs money, someone has to receive the money, and that someone can be tracked down. |
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 | reply to wattjg Well it looks like 5 of those 7 hops gets you to the Level3 backbone in SFO.
But even two more hops from there could pretty much be anywhere...even NYC is just one more hop away (though this don't leave much left to progress down into the remote network).
I'm pretty much concluding that this approach to backtracking isn't going to work..it would be just soooo much easier if we had the cooperation of the backbone providers to actually *look* at where the traffic is coming from using their flow data...
Using: »www.level3.com/LookingGlass/ (Select San Francisco) tracert to: www.nytimes.com
1 so-4-0-0.mp1.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net (209.247.10.225) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 so-1-2-0.bbr2.NewYork1.level3.net (64.159.1.134) 76 msec 80 msec 76 msec -- Lawrence Baldwin myNetWatchman The Internet Neighborhood Watch |
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 wattjgPremium join:2003-05-24 San Jose, CA | said by NetWatchMan: I'm pretty much concluding that this approach to backtracking isn't going to work...
Do you want me to continue the experiment?
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Re: Call for participation! Msgr Spam investigation Ill be glad to participate. I am currently being spammed, but I am blocking at my firewall.....
Let Me Know!
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 Aggie DanStop... Reverse That.Premium join:2001-01-30 Frisco, TX | reply to NetWatchMan If you are still looking to work on this...
I know you said it might not work because of the backbone providers not providing information, but now that this hit the front page maybe you'll be able to see data from more collection points.
I've got a computer I can put on the DMZ (already ghosted) and open it up for attack. I'm using SBC/Yahoo! and live in Texas. -- Note : The statements made by myself are my own and not the opinions of my employer or of my coworkers. 14.327 GHz Crunching Power | The Ryan Foundation for MPS Children |
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 | reply to NetWatchMan I'm interested in stopping this spamming of mass e-mail. I have a Rogers wave connection, and have had a heck of a time preventing other people from using my system and ID's to send mass e-mail.. (Spoofing if you may). I had been shut down by my service provider for a day, and ended up reconfiguring my system from ground up. (Formatting Hard Drive, Reinstall software, reinstall internet, and being provided with a new e-mail address.) I had not givin this new address out to anyone, and withing the first hour of being online, I was able to trace a massive amount of porn e-mail being hubbed through my system.. Any Ideas on how I can stop this.. I have an entire collection of original IP addresses, and I am almost tempted to write a seek and destroy program to take down these spam sites. I have been a programmer for over 25 years, but have never had to deal with this type of problem before.
Thanks...
Andy..
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Re: Call for participation! Msgr Spam investigatio I use Astaro Security Linux and the logs are very detailed..source ip..dest ip..ports..and ttl..as well as rwin maong others..if you want logs like this let me know..:) -- God Blesshttp://www.faithwalk.org |
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 catseyenuAck PfftPremium join:2001-11-17 Fix East | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8096601~mode=flat~start=80;iframe=1#8287922 said by NetWatchMan: I'm pretty much concluding that this approach to backtracking isn't going to work..it would be just soooo much easier if we had the cooperation of the backbone providers to actually *look* at where the traffic is coming from using their flow data...
Looks like it's game over without cooperation from the ISP's. |
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