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pnh102
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reply to mocycler

Re: Where are the MBB shills?

said by mocycler:
If this were an article about the ILEC's cooking the books and hiding the facts, there'd be about a zillion posts already. Now that the shoe's on the other foot, the socialist broadband proponents suddenly find themselves speechless.
And the crickets are still chirping...
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mocycler
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said by pnh102:
And the crickets are still chirping...
Yeah, where's ravital, zabes63, 2farfromco, and calviopier when you need them?

This article is two days old and there's only 25 replies...half of them from you and me!! The ILEC-bashing threads get that many the first hour.

Yawn. I don't expect to win them over...but I will use this thread against them later.

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oliphant5
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Uh...perhaps it's 'cause ILECs suck and you would have an easier time finding someone to defend Hitler than an ILEC...meanwhile people see a muni violating an anti-competitive cause of the law down there on the sin list with the rolling stop and flogging the bishop.
[text was edited by author 2003-10-03 22:13:33]



mocycler
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Well, well, well. The lights go on and the roaches go a-runnin'.

I'm not looking for someone to defend the ILECs. I'm looking for someone to defend the MBB's. And in this case, the defenders are few.

As always, put up or shut up. If the "ILECs suck" then cancel them and get a cellphone. You as a consumer have choices. I as a taxpayer do not.

This is not complicated: Open your own wallet and leave mine alone.

mocycler

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oliphant5
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What's to defend. Better service. Better prices. As for the POS ILECs, I did. I cancelled Verizon and went with Vonage, double the service for 1/2 the price. It's really not that complicated, don't like the MBB...move. You want to pay more...go for it, but don't expect your neighbors to.

And I suppose we should close public schools since private schools have to compete against them. I suppose we should close the USPS because UPS and Fedex have to compete against them. I suppose we should close Amtrak and public transit because auto manufacturers and airlines have to compete against them. I suppose we could cancel PBS and NPR since the private networks have to compete against it.

What logic. Telecom is as equally important as mass transit or mail delivery and the populous shouldn't be left to the anti-competitive consumer raping cable operators and telcos. If private enterprise isn't interested in providing decent service for a good price tough crap if a city or town should elect to deliver their own services.

And it works, as evidenced by sudden increases in service levels and sudden decreases in costs...both benefit the consumer.
[text was edited by author 2003-10-03 22:41:46]



pnh102
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said by oliphant5:
people see a muni violating an anti-competitive cause of the law down there on the sin list with the rolling stop and flogging the bishop.
And why not? The law is the law. If a private company violates such laws or worse we would be seething if their heads didn't roll or if some people didn't end up in jail, rightfully so in my opinion. If this government racket is indeed guilty of breaking the law, then why shouldn't the people running it be entitled to the same penalties?
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oliphant5
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The courts will decide if they violated the law, just as they did with Microsoft.

Again, the racket is run by those who got the non-compete into the law in the first place. They racket is run by businesses who are able to run roughshod over customers and have the practice state sanctioned. You may enjoy the non-competitive atmosphere created by abusive business but consumers in general don't.

And now, these anti-competitive companies who thought they had it made could get away with abusing customers with horrid service and high prices, are pissed because Benton is the only one selling the service. Hypocrites.

Fine, let them sue, open those lines to ALL ISPs willing to pay the PUD and give more choice to the people...but the day of greedy businesses colluding and scheming to reduce choice for consumers is over.
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[text was edited by author 2003-10-04 11:12:27]


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