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Re: Cable has NO EXSCUSE TO CRY!!! said by vic102482:
said by pnh102:
said by vic102482:
its only fitting that CABLE should have to pay more, and lose to line sharers just like the telecom industry.
If you want to pay more per month for cable that's fine. I'd prefer not to, and I certainly think a USF charge for cable is outrageous... this is for glorified TV service, why should people be getting that as a freebie?!
As for the ruling, I am not worried at all, this is the 9th Circus Court of Appeals after all... so the ruling will be overturned in due course.
So why shouldnt cable internet suscribers have to pay the same fees as DSL suscribers? Thats like not having to pay a certain tax for roads beacuse you ride a motorcycle.
Both have right of way, and both tear up city streets and both connect to the internet.
Cable is more like a McLaren F1 and DSL is like a Chevy Cavalier, lol. |
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 rideboarderwelcome to the socialPremium
join:2003-07-28
Snohomish, WA | said by Phoenix2088:
said by vic102482:
said by pnh102:
said by vic102482:
its only fitting that CABLE should have to pay more, and lose to line sharers just like the telecom industry.
If you want to pay more per month for cable that's fine. I'd prefer not to, and I certainly think a USF charge for cable is outrageous... this is for glorified TV service, why should people be getting that as a freebie?!
As for the ruling, I am not worried at all, this is the 9th Circus Court of Appeals after all... so the ruling will be overturned in due course.
So why shouldnt cable internet suscribers have to pay the same fees as DSL suscribers? Thats like not having to pay a certain tax for roads beacuse you ride a motorcycle.
Both have right of way, and both tear up city streets and both connect to the internet.
Cable is more like a McLaren F1 and DSL is like a Chevy Cavalier, lol.
uh no |
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| what gets me is that cable seems to be more expensive now ( i pay $45pr mo) then dsl ( going rate is $35) and cable is exempt from certain taxes.. Well i have cable and dont want the price to go up anymore, im sure cable will pass it along to the user, but fair is fair.... both services provide www access just different forms both should pay same tax.Cars and trucks both use highway to get around and both pay same gasoline tax.
Also didnt realize that the USF charge is for developing telepone on poor areas... nice to see i can help out others in life. I wonder if thats where my x-wife gets money from when they shut off her phone and suddenly she gets it back on... |
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 oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | quote:
just different forms
This is the problem. The tax is on the FORM, not what goes over it. There are no xDSL taxes. There are no cable HSI taxes.
There are taxes on cable video (franchise fees) and the telephone LINE.
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to jimraelee
said by jimraelee:
what gets me is that cable seems to be more expensive now ( i pay $45pr mo) then dsl ( going rate is $35)
Is it? I don't think its a fair comparison because all DSL providers require you to have a landline phone, which tacks on $15-$25 to the price of DSL. I would say the price of cable modem is comparable to DSL if you compare the price of the cable modem without the optional cable TV service along side the price of DSL with mandatory phone service.
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| cable goes up without the cable tv service... and in our area modems are included for like $5 pr month... and the mandatory telephone line... I dont consider that much becaue we all have phone lines.. and cable carriers our here require a phone line to update your movie downloads and on screen bill service... is cable realy that much faster than dsl... seems when my neighbors get online at night i see my speed drop... no much fun |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | said by jimraelee:
cable goes up without the cable tv service... and in our area modems are included for like $5 pr month...
That's exactly my point... In my area, a cable modem without the cable TV service is $60 a month. DSL ($30-$50 a month) + the phone line ($15-$25 a month) comes out to $45 to $75 a month. That's what I meant when the prices are comparable. Price, of course, is not the only determining factor.
said by jimraelee:
and the mandatory telephone line... I dont consider that much becaue we all have phone lines..
Not everyone does anymore. If the telegraph company wanted me to switch to DSL (which probably isn't available here anyway), then they would have to not charge me extra money for a phone line I would not use.
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 tlgPremium
join:2001-08-23
Melbourne, FL | reply to jimraelee
said by jimraelee:
I dont consider that much becaue we all have phone lines..
Um.... No we don't, I have a broadband connection with VOIP (Vonage). Bellsouth has been banished from my rez.
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | said by tlg:
said by jimraelee:
I dont consider that much becaue we all have phone lines..
Um.... No we don't, I have a broadband connection with VOIP (Vonage). Bellsouth has been banished from my rez.
TG
Ditto.
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 TimePremium
join:2003-07-05
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said by rideboarder:
said by Phoenix2088:
said by vic102482:
said by pnh102:
said by vic102482:
its only fitting that CABLE should have to pay more, and lose to line sharers just like the telecom industry.
If you want to pay more per month for cable that's fine. I'd prefer not to, and I certainly think a USF charge for cable is outrageous... this is for glorified TV service, why should people be getting that as a freebie?!
As for the ruling, I am not worried at all, this is the 9th Circus Court of Appeals after all... so the ruling will be overturned in due course.
So why shouldnt cable internet suscribers have to pay the same fees as DSL suscribers? Thats like not having to pay a certain tax for roads beacuse you ride a motorcycle.
Both have right of way, and both tear up city streets and both connect to the internet.
Cable is more like a McLaren F1 and DSL is like a Chevy Cavalier, lol.
uh no
He does have a point. I am one of the lucky ones to live close enough to my CO to get 6 mbps ADSL, which, if I'm not correct, is the fastest DSL in the US. Meanwhile, cable is up to 10 mbps with OOL.
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please spare me. how do cable modem user like the linespeed
when all the other users on the node use up the bandwidth? then your turbo f1 is crawling along at yugo/56K speeds. cable modems are good if your on a node that's not oversubscribed/overused.
i would like to see adelphia forced to drop it's rates due to competition. can you say $47.79/month for basic catv. no tv set top box; just the coax straight into the tv... 65 channels. can't say about other cableco's but do you remember the riga family and the $$$$$millions$$$$$$ they 'stole' from their own company... what a band of theives. they are not popular in this area and are the only game in town. please, bring in the competition; give us a choice. |
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 Bumpin1ohmBumpin1ohmPremium
join:2002-07-15
Aurora, CO | reply to rideboarder
said by rideboarder:
said by Phoenix2088:
said by vic102482:
said by pnh102:
said by vic102482:
its only fitting that CABLE should have to pay more, and lose to line sharers just like the telecom industry.
If you want to pay more per month for cable that's fine. I'd prefer not to, and I certainly think a USF charge for cable is outrageous... this is for glorified TV service, why should people be getting that as a freebie?!
As for the ruling, I am not worried at all, this is the 9th Circus Court of Appeals after all... so the ruling will be overturned in due course.
So why shouldnt cable internet suscribers have to pay the same fees as DSL suscribers? Thats like not having to pay a certain tax for roads beacuse you ride a motorcycle.
Both have right of way, and both tear up city streets and both connect to the internet.
Cable is more like a McLaren F1 and DSL is like a Chevy Cavalier, lol.
uh no
he is right, cable is like a ml f1... drive it around the block once, and you cant drive it again for the rest of the month, on the other hand, dsl (cavalier) you can drive around to your hearts content 
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magdan
join:2002-04-04
Camp Hill, PA | reply to pnh102
I do not have a landline phone. I work for a wireless telephone company and jsut use wireless. I had earthlink dsl thru covad. The line into my home was used to provide service, but there was no dial tone on it, and I had no Verizon bill to pay. |
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 Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
kudos:18 | reply to Phoenix2088
said by Phoenix2088:
Cable is more like a McLaren F1 and DSL is like a Chevy Cavalier, lol.
 Not even close. The fact is that cable is a Bus that lumbers along and DSL is a sleek fast motorcycle. |
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 SarickIt's Only LogicalPremium
join:2003-06-03
USA | reply to jimraelee
You pay $45 for Cable
Wow lucky you. In my loccatiob I Pay $49 a month for PPPoA 1120/128..
Thats without the $30 for Phone Line tax and the phone line it's self.
$75 for Phone + DSL vs $100 basic Cable and Cable Internet..
Oh I also have 2 phone lines and for each line I pay for the TAXES.
75+50 About PER MONTH $125 telco charges..
Your complaining about your 3-4meg / 128-512 PPPoE Transfer?
I'm lucky to get 56K where I live. Even with dregulation I can't get access to other Internet providers. |
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mrs213
join:2002-05-25
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to Phoenix2088
Any post with 'LOL' in it immediately loses credibility.
Cable is only a McLaren when nobody else using it. Get your 3Mbps downstream on peak hours. Oh, right, YOU CAN'T. |
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | said by mrs213:
Any post with 'LOL' in it immediately loses credibility.
Cable is only a McLaren when nobody else using it. Get your 3Mbps downstream on peak hours. Oh, right, YOU CAN'T.
Oh boy...another drone buying the telco lies about cable. I get my 3.8Mb caps 24-7. Meanwhile I get 500kbps at best with my wonderful 1.5Mb VOL.
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kr33p
join:2002-08-08
Spring, TX | reply to jimraelee
speak for yourself, i pay $70/mo for cable (1.5/128). I would looooove to see competition bring it down to $45. |
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SarickIt's Only LogicalPremium
join:2003-06-03
USA | If you put it that way. Your paying for your cable TV..
I didn't add the cost of the Phone line. put them together and your looking about the same price. |
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here here on the cable is only a McLaren when nobodys home.. all day long on my off days i surf the net and get good speed... about 5pm-7pm my line speed drops drastically.. I get the best speed at 5am before i go to work... |
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