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| Do not spam list? They actually want this? There's no way for this list to be enforced properly and spammers will probably find a way to get access to the list and get legit email addresses.
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| Agreed. What about off-shore spammers? At least off-shore tele-marketing companies would have to pay for the phone call. |
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BeeperPart Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH | reply to Straphanger
said by Straphanger:
They actually want this? There's no way for this list to be enforced properly and spammers will probably find a way to get access to the list and get legit email addresses.
Proper enforcement is not relevant. Fixing the problem isn't either.
Sen. Chuck Schumer wants very much to beat Rudy Giuliani in 2004. What's relevant then is that Senator Schumer wants an initiative that he's associated with for campaign commercials next year.
Any spam reduction would be a happy by-product.
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said by Straphanger:
...spammers will probably find a way to get access to the list and get legit email addresses.
Find a way?
The idea is to GIVE them the list so they know who not to spam.
Another wonder from Sen. Dummphuk.
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The real way to stop spam, or at least the growth of spam is to boycott corporations that use spam. I get spam from Target and 1-800-Flowers all the time. I sure as hell am never buying from them. There is no way to boycott E-Businesses because there are too many of them. The true reason spam keeps it's strength and intensity is because dumb people keep purchasing the products that are advertised in the spam message. If you know someone who bought the penis enlargement pills or refinanced their home, punch 'em in the face. The best way to combat spam is to get a spam filter like SpamBayes. |
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Politicians attempting to do something that many technical geniuses have not accomplished. It is sometimes shocking what someone will attempt to pretend they are accomplishing when trying to get elected.
In many cases spam can actually contain illegal products like "give me your bank account number so I can give you money" or "buy drugs online". If these spammers are not concerned with US laws to begin with how does the logic of giving them a list with tons of valid email addresses and telling them "do not send spam to any of these people or you will get in big trouble".
The spam problem, like many other problems with the internet, has a technical solution not a legal one.
BTW, I signed up for the do not call list when it first came out meaning I should not get telemarketing calls after October 1st, is that right? Yet I still get telemarketing calls. Time will tell with the do not call list I guess. |
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 oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | reply to Straphanger
Ditto...this will be nothing more than a free list for rat-bastard spammers.
The only way to stop spammers is to stop those who are paying them by going after the merchants who hire them.
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Are you sure someone did not sign up for those?
I have never gotten spam from a decent company unless I bought something from them and agreed to accept emails from them.
I find it hard to believe that Target would do that, just blindly spam someone. |
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said by photoguy83:
The real way to stop spam, or at least the growth of spam is to boycott corporations that use spam. I get spam from Target and 1-800-Flowers all the time. I sure as hell am never buying from them.
This gets complicated when applied to software companies. That copy of Norton Anti-Virus that you're being spammed about may be a legit copy being offered by an overzealous marketer that Symantec contracted with. However, it could also be a pirated copy from a spammer with no connections to Symantec whatsoever. So do you boycott Symantec products?
I do agree about never buying anything from Spam though. (The best are the "Never get spam again" spams. So you're admitting that spam is bad, but you'll still try to sell me stuff via it?  )
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 rit56
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New York political insight straight from Ohio. No offense but you're 100% wrong. I live here. Schumer actually legislates for his voters and not for Haliburton like our Vice President. He doesn't think about Rudy who was a terrible mayor. Did a nice job with 9/11 but that was about it. He was a bust for 7.5 years. I live in NYC. Go ahead and defend Rudy as mayor never having lived here yourself. If your white and rich than you'll will like him as a Senator. If you're like the other 98% of the population forget about any good coming to your family. Fox News and Conservative radio ranting shows like Mr. Oxycontin (who by what he personally has said on air should do jail time) are wrong again. |
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BeeperPart Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
| said by rit56:
New York political insight straight from Ohio.
By that logic, being a Black New York liberal disqualifies your commentary on white conservatives or people living in the other 49 states.
Please point out where I said a single nice thing about Rudy G.
»www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspol···10PZ.htm
Examine what New Yorkers have to say on Schumer v Giuliani for New York Senate.
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said by photoguy83:
The true reason spam keeps it's strength and intensity is because dumb people keep purchasing the products that are advertised in the spam message. If you know someone who bought the penis enlargement pills or refinanced their home, punch 'em in the face.
Unlike infomercials, I don't know of anyone who bought anything from spam e-mail.
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Unlike infomercials, I don't know of anyone who bought anything from spam e-mail.
Unlike spam, there are actually some good products advertised on infomercials. (A lot of junk, but some good stuff.)
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HAL 5 Year |
Halliburton is down around 15 bucks ($40ish in Jan 2001 -- currently $24ish)since the current administration got settled in.
Are their execs really that inept to be unable to even simply maintain a stock price despite all this favor and "legislation" they're getting from the Vice President (who I wasn't aware was part of the legislative branch)?
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rit56
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first of all I'm white and an Independent. you sir by your last statement are a racist. how dare you make such a statement against black people or any race living in this country. "Give Me Your Tired Your Poor Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free" What does that mean to you? That is inscribed on the Statue of Liberty. Where does it say the USA is for white people only? Somewhere in Dayton Ohio? Secondly your marist poll is meaningless for two reasons... 1 we'll see what happens come election day and 2 YOU DON'T LIVE HERE. you don't know what you're talking about. the nice thing about living in New York is I can walk down the street and pass blacks, hispanics, asians all people and never do I fear anything. We live together. You live in some sick racist fear. The United States is a multi cultural country. deal with it. |
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oliphant5Got Identity?Premium
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Corona, CA | reply to rit56
said by rit56:
New York political insight straight from Ohio. No offense but you're 100% wrong. I live here. Schumer actually legislates for his voters and not for Haliburton like our Vice President.
The executive branch writing and passing laws...that's a new one. If ignorance is bliss, you're on Cloud 9.
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BeeperPart Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH | reply to rit56
said by rit56:
first of all I'm white and an Independent.
Independent voters can have liberal values.
My last statement was a suggestion to read what New Yorkers have to say about a Schumer-Giuliani Senate race. Giuliani wins. Digging deeper into the Marist University polling data shows Giuliani beating every single person in a Senate race, including Mrs. Clinton.
Perhaps you meant my first statement.
I used your logic that only a local person has insight on a local race, that only a member of the tribe can comment on the tribe.
If that's racist logic, well sir, you've labelled yourself a racist.
said by rit56:
how dare you make such a statement against black people or any race living in this country.
Where is the statement?
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"Give Me Your Tired Your Poor Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free" What does that mean to you?
It means to me that the US is dedicated to the principle of open immigration, that any person that wishes to become an American may do so.
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Where does it say the USA is for white people only? Somewhere in Dayton Ohio?
That's typical New York liberal condescension, belittling the people in flyover country as racist bigots.
said by rit56:
Secondly your marist poll is meaningless for two reasons... 1 we'll see what happens come election day and 2 YOU DON'T LIVE HERE.
said by rit56:
A New York poll asking New York citizens by a New York university with a long track record has established that in the state of New York people would vote for Rudy Giulinai over Charles Schumer.
said by rit56:
you don't know what you're talking about.
I cited a New York poll done by local professionals. What about you?
said by rit56:
the nice thing about living in New York is I can walk down the street and pass blacks, hispanics, asians all people and never do I fear anything.
You've never been to Dayton have you?
said by rit56:
You live in some sick racist fear.
Here is my fear.
The US public school system fails Black children. American teachers fail to educate millions, which leads to high dropout rates, bad grammar and punctuation use, which contributes to high crime and incarceration rates, low wages over a lifetime, and early deaths.
How would I fix it? Fire public school teachers and break their unions. Go to a year round school year. Require hours of homework daily. Give poor Black parents thousands of dollars in vouchers to send their kids to private schools to get a successful education with the rich kids.
I cannot apologize for demanding a revolution to ensure a good education for urban black children.
said by rit56:
The United States is a multi cultural country. deal with it.
I do quite nicely everyday. Unless living next to a black accountant doesn't count.
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 bhhurdPremium
join:2003-02-13
Pennsburg, PA | reply to rit56
I lived in Washington DC for 8 1/2 years. That was more than enough time to figure out that most politicians (both sides of the aisle) are only worried about one thing: Getting Re-Elected.
You may be fortunate enough to really have one of the handfull of elected officials in Congress who really cares about their constituents, however the odds of this being true are not in your favor.
Every member in both houses tries hard to convince those that elected them that their member of the House of Senate really has their best interest at heart. This is mostly crap, but unfortunately this the basis of politics everywhere. |
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