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Orinoco WPA driversHas anyone seen anything from Proxim on WPA drivers?
There site first mentioned 7/31/03 as the release date but was changed to 10/21/03 (yesterday). However, I don't see anything yet. [text was edited by author 2003-10-22 10:59:24] |
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DSLrgm Premium Member join:2002-08-22 Oak Park, MI |
DSLrgm
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2003-Oct-22 12:21 pm
Can you give me the url of where they talk about WPA?
If you look at the release notes for the AP-2000 ver 2.1.2:
Per User Per Session (.11g) This feature supports the dynamic generation of encryption keys for each 802.11 wireless client using 802.1x security.The 802.11a/g radios have the ability to store 128 WEP keys as opposed to the maximum number of 4 on the 802.11b NICs. This ability enables a higher level of security for those connecting through this interface by giving each client, up to 108, its own unique key.
As things stand, I am not looking forward to a WPA driver for the 'classic' cards. |
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Juke BoxHis Word Never Fails Premium Member join:2001-01-29 Psalm 96 ESV |
Juke Box
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2003-Oct-22 12:39 pm
said by DSLrgm: Can you give me the url of where they talk about WPA?
Here is your URL. "2. New Features
Release 2.3.0 - July 2003
WiFi Protected Access (WPA) WPA pulls together several of the key technologies from 3.0 draft version of the 802.11i standard. These include:
· TKIP (Temporal Key Integrity Protocol) - Provides better data privacy with per frame keying and a larger IV than WEP. Also provides message integrity checking (MIC) using Michael MIC algorithm to prevent re-play attacks. · Standard 802.1X server based authentication · Dynamic key management through 802.1X · Option for server-less authentication via pre-shared keys · AP and station negotiation of WPA authentication mode and cipher suite capabilities WPA supports 27 clients."Looks as if they had support since July on the AP-2000. |
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Sorry for the lack of detail. I am actually talking about orinoco clients. » www.expressresponse.com/ ··· mit.y=11It is a pdf document. |
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Thanks! I hope Proxim (aka ORiNOCO) comes through on this promised rollout. And -- no offense intended -- I hope DSLrm's pessimism » No WPA for older Orinoco cards turns out to be wrong. I have been happy with the radio performance of my old Silver card, which has done yeoman service for 2-1/2 years. But I want WPA. |
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DSLrgm Premium Member join:2002-08-22 Oak Park, MI |
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Thanks for that URL. I missed that, they sure don't make finding stuff easy!
I just downloaded 2.3.1 for my AP and am working on putting the new 8800 card into the AP, so it will have WPA.
I asked my contacts in Agere engineering about those dates. |
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Anything you can find out will be greatly appreciated. |
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Looks like the are pushed back again. October 31 is the new date. » www.proxim.com/learn/lib ··· aper.pdf |
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lol, thats for the classic cards. The new client b cards dont get it until nov 30 scroll down threw the list. |
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The classic cards are what we have. I wonder what the hold-up is? |
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Rygel Premium Member join:2001-11-17 Moira, NY |
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My gold card model number isn't listed there, nor is tha AP-200. |
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lol, I dont have the classical card. I want the new client b card drivers. Right now my plans are for november getting the WRT54G router from linksys.
-illusion |
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Kirin Premium Member join:2001-07-14 |
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said by Rygel: My gold card model number isn't listed there, nor is tha AP-200.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall that the original specs for the AP-200 stated that the system did support 802.1x, and Agere, at the time stated that the AP-200 was going to be upgradeable to WPA. The current Proxim data sheets make no reference to the AP-200 supporting 802.1x, and Proxim now will only upgrade the AP-2000 and AP-600 to WPA. I can tell you that I'll probably not be buying any Proxim/Orinoco gear in the future. |
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I see they have some drivers out now at » www.proxim.com/support/a ··· _17.html if you haven't noticed. It seems like they are not for the "classic" cards though which is disappointing to me since I've got a bunch of old silver cards and would like to use WPA. Andrew |
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The drivers for the remaining 802.11b Gold and Silvers are not due out until 11/30/03, according to the white paper linked above. The disappointing thing is that the users of these cards must buy third-party supplicant software, which costs almost as much as the cards are worth. |
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anonbridger
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2003-Nov-6 9:11 pm
Is it possible to use the client budled with XP (with the WPA addon installed)?
Also, the "Orinoco Classic Gold PC Card" is listed at October 31 along with the others while only the "Orinoco 11b Client PC Card, Gold and Silver" is listed for the later date according to the table in the whitepaper. |
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said by anonbridger: Is it possible to use the client budled with XP (with the WPA addon installed)?
Sorry, I forget some people use XP Yes, that is supposed to work. I don't really understand the distinction between the "classic" cards and the other Gold/Silver 802.11b units. Perhaps someone could explain it. |
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I thought the difference was Hermes (classic) and Ruby chipsets. Where's wirelessdawg when you need him? » Orinoco / Agere / Avaya / Buffalo / Lucent |
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What about the Classic Silver?According to the Proxim whitepaper » www.proxim.com/learn/lib ··· aper.pdf linked above: •"ORiNOCO Classic Gold PC Card" will be supported, with WPA driver due out Oct. 31, 03 (Seems to have slipped ). •"ORiNOCO 11b Client PC Card, Gold and Silver" will be supported, with WPA driver due out Nov. 30, 03. Where does the Classic Silver fit in? Elsewhere in the same document it states: "Can ALL ORiNOCO PC cards be upgraded? All ORiNOCO PC cards can be upgraded to support WPA except the ORiNOCO 802.11a CardBus Card, model number 8454-xx and the ORiNOCO 802.11a PCI Card, model number 8151-xx. RangeLAN-DS and Harmony client cards cannot be upgraded." So, it seems that I have a Classic Silver, but is has been orphaned. I wonder if it was only orphaned in the documentation, or for real? |
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ZOverLord Premium Member join:2003-10-20 Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Orinoco WPA driversPlease see my post here: » Supplicants for WPA and XP WPA updateb/g and a/b/g driver link is there |
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said by ZOverLord: Please see my post here: »Supplicants for WPA and XP WPA update
for a link to WPA drivers, NOTE the older cards according to the white papers state that the drivers are at FUNK and MEETINGHOUSE.
The white paper states that the supplicant software is available from these third parties, not the drivers. |
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Re: What about the Classic Silver?said by boomerbubba:
So, it seems that I have a Classic Silver, but is has been orphaned. I wonder if it was only orphaned in the documentation, or for real?
I'm wondering the same thing although theoretically if the silver cards really were orphaned wouldn't it be possible to flash them as gold cards to get WPA? |
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Classic Silver will be supported, tooAn update to my own question: said by boomerbubba: According to the Proxim whitepaper »www.proxim.com/learn/lib ··· aper.pdf linked above:
•"ORiNOCO Classic Gold PC Card" will be supported, with WPA driver due out Oct. 31, 03 (Seems to have slipped ).
•"ORiNOCO 11b Client PC Card, Gold and Silver" will be supported, with WPA driver due out Nov. 30, 03.
Where does the Classic Silver fit in? ...
I contacted Proxim tech support by email today with these particulars, and within an hour I received an assurance that "the same drivers that will be released for the Orinoco Classic Gold Card should work with the Orinoco Classic Silver Card." ETA not sure, hopefully before the end of 2003. Go, Proxim! |
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Juke BoxHis Word Never Fails Premium Member join:2001-01-29 Psalm 96 ESV |
Juke Box
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2003-Nov-12 7:18 am
said by boomerbubba: An update to my own question:said by boomerbubba: According to the Proxim whitepaper »www.proxim.com/learn/lib ··· aper.pdf linked above:
•"ORiNOCO Classic Gold PC Card" will be supported, with WPA driver due out Oct. 31, 03 (Seems to have slipped ).
•"ORiNOCO 11b Client PC Card, Gold and Silver" will be supported, with WPA driver due out Nov. 30, 03.
Where does the Classic Silver fit in? ...
I contacted Proxim tech support by email today with these particulars, and within an hour I received an assurance that "the same drivers that will be released for the Orinoco Classic Gold Card should work with the Orinoco Classic Silver Card." ETA not sure, hopefully before the end of 2003. Go, Proxim!
FWIW, I have also been talking with Proxim 1st & 2nd teer support; and in each conversation it has been mentioned that the first two weeks in December will be the release date for new firmware. Anyone who uses the AP-2000 and the 2.3.1 firmware will be pleased that the common issues (and you know what they are) will be addressed in the new release. |
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DSLrgm Premium Member join:2002-08-22 Oak Park, MI |
DSLrgm
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2003-Nov-12 10:17 am
said by Juke Box: Anyone who uses the AP-2000 and the 2.3.1 firmware will be pleased that the common issues (and you know what they are) will be addressed in the new release.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I work with the engineers that design the chips. The HERMES I and II cards only support group keys. There is no silicon there for per-station keys. No amount of software can fix this the way the cards are built. This means that these cards cannot support the requirements for WPA in APs (or in AdHoc). They can only function as clients to APs. It is THIS software we are all waiting for. |
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Juke BoxHis Word Never Fails Premium Member join:2001-01-29 Psalm 96 ESV |
Juke Box
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2003-Nov-12 10:42 am
You didn't burst my bubble. LOL One thing is for sure. I didn't find out 3 months later that Proxim started to support WPA as mentioned here. However, I do have AP-2000's installed at different locations. If I was told by teer 2 support that addresses WPA issues, WEP encryption for that matter, while in AP's; then I have no reason not to believe them. The cards I would imagine supported would be 8420's (802.11b (DSSS 2.4 GHz))and up. |
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DSLrgm Premium Member join:2002-08-22 Oak Park, MI |
DSLrgm
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2003-Nov-12 11:40 am
said by Juke Box: You didn't burst my bubble. LOL
Glad to hear that. quote: One thing is for sure. I didn't find out 3 months later that Proxim started to support WPA as mentioned here.
My HP engineer told me to flash one of his APs with the PROXIM code to start on WPA, while I wait for the HP version quote: However, I do have AP-2000's installed at different locations. If I was told by teer 2 support that addresses WPA issues, WEP encryption for that matter, while in AP's; then I have no reason not to believe them. The cards I would imagine supported would be 8420's (802.11b (DSSS 2.4 GHz))and up.
My Agere/Proxim engineers tell me it is the 8800-FC. I'll ask them about the 8420s (we are in separate meetings today. I'll see them at the social tonight). |
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said by Juke Box: FWIW, I have also been talking with Proxim 1st & 2nd teer support; and in each conversation it has been mentioned that the first two weeks in December will be the release date for new firmware.
I guess they are still behind schedule on this then? Or are there new classic drivers somewhere that I am missing... |
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jkonrad
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2004-Jan-20 7:43 am
When I go to » www.agere.com and look at the WLAN drivers they are listing a new driver that it says: . NEW IN THIS RELEASE 3.1 Version 7.82 SR02-2.3 * WPA for HERMES-I Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) is a security option that restricts wireless access to your network and communications as an alternative to the IEEE 802.11 Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) standard. * WEP encrypts data using static encryption keys that must be set to identical values on each Wireless Client and Base Station. * WPA, also referred to as TKIP (Temporal Key Integrity Protocol) or SSN (Simple Secure Network) will provide dynamic encryption keys to Authorised Wireless Clients only. To use WPA you will need a wireless infrastructure that supports Wireless Client Authentication. * Wireless Clients that satisfy the following requirements: - Use hardware and drivers that support WPA (see below). - Run an operating system that provides 802.1 x support. * Computers running MS-Windows XP (Service Pack 1) support the 802.1x supplicant by default. QFE Q815485 is required and can be downloaded from the Microsoft website. * Computers running MS-Windows 98, ME or 2000 will need a dedicated 3rd party supplicant. * Wireless Base Stations must: - Support the WPA protocol - Be connected to a dedicated Authentication Server (for example a RADIUS server). The Authentication Server will validate whether a Wireless Client is authorised to access the network and give clearance to the Base Station to provide a dynamic encryption key plus access to the Wireless Client. NOTE: This release only supports WPA for wireless clients equipped with an Agere Systems Hermes-1-based radio. This release does not support WPA for: * Wireless Clients equipped with Hermes 2 radios * Wireless Clients equipped with Hermes 1 radios that: -operate in "Peer-to-Peer Group" mode. -operate in "Act as Base Station" mode. * Removed 'true world cards' for HERMES-II Hermes 2 cards are no longer 'true world cards', the country settings have been removed from the control panel. 3.2 Version 7.82 SR02-2.2 HERMES-II * This was the first release for Hermes-II. 3.3 Version 7.82 SR02-2.1 HERMES-I * Improved firmware version 8.72 for station and AP is embedded in the driver. * Wake On LAN (WOL) functionality has been added to the drivers for the PCI adapter. To be able to work with WOL following settings must be applied (XP): 1. Advanced Power management ON 2. Wake On Lan ON 3. Allow this device to wake up the computer ON WOL reacts on so-called magic packets only. I don't have any WPA devices so I can't test it. |
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jkonrad
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2004-Jan-20 7:57 am
New Driver/Firmware from AgereI applied the Driver and Client manager to my Toshiba laptop with a mini-pci agere based card. Here is the new version info's - a new firmware seems to be embedded in the driver (I was at 8.72).
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This logfile identifies the version level of the various Wireless network card components and systems settings of your computer. Please include this log file with every support request to your Wireless Technical Support Representative.
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Date: 2004/01/20 07:55:02
OS: WIN2001 Version 5.01 Service Pack 1 Build 2600
Variant 1, Version 3.30 of Client Manager Variant 2, Version 7.82 of NDIS 5 Miniport driver Variant 4, Version 5.00 of ORINOCO Wireless Card Encryption capabilities: WEP + 128RC4 Max. data rate: 11 Mbit/s
Variant 1, Version 4.04 of Primary Functions firmware Variant 2, Version 9.42 of Station Functions firmware
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