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ArchAngel21x
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reply to Karl Bode

Re: Only From These Idiots...

said by Karl Bode:
Geeze...some of you guys need naps or something....
Never mind. It's called not proof reading.
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[text was edited by author 2003-10-29 10:47:30]


Karl Bode
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I guess I just don't understand why all the hostility toward Berkeley? I post stories about how the bells pay phoney companies who claim they're independent to publish "studies" that say what the bells want them to say, and nobody says a thing....

Post something about Berkeley researchers, and they're somehow satan spawn?

I'm just missing the pulse of popular opinion or something.



CyberSchnook3
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There's no IQ test required to get an account at BBR.
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nickpdx
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i use more than 800mb almost every day



ArchAngel21x
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reply to Karl Bode
For one, this survey has no real value other than to provide useless statistics. While they are entertaining, they are also inaccurate as I mentioned earlier.

As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.
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Karl Bode
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Inaccurate how? You've sat and crunched the numbers?

The 800Meg average is spread across the entire world's population, most of whom don't have a PC......



ArchAngel21x
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And including people who don't have PCs is beneficial how? That's probably the main reason the stats are so screwed up. I can say on average smoking does not harm a person's health and not include the fact that I involved everyone in the world regardless if they actually smoke or not. That would make as much nonsense as these stats. If they wanted accuracy, they should have started by taking into account only people with Internet access.
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ArchAngel21x
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reply to CyberSchnook3

said by CyberSchnook3:
There's no IQ test required to get an account at BBR.

Not only is that OT, it was just rude.
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bmn
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reply to ArchAngel21x

said by ArchAngel21x:
If they wanted accuracy, they should have started by taking into account only people with Internet access.
Information exists in far more diverse forms that digital data that is on the internet. An understanding of that basic fact seems to escape you based on your post.

For example, if I write a page of prose, I have created about a 1kB of data. Hell, Shakespeare in his lifetime probably wrote several HUNDRED MBs of data.

The data they are measuring is NOT isolated to the internet.
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bmn
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reply to ArchAngel21x

said by ArchAngel21x:
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.
So if the people at Berkeley found a cure for cancer, you would still call them idiots because you disagree with their political beliefs ? Would you then not use the drug if need be because you disagree with politics ?

People, we need to get beyond politics. Politics are a huge waste of time and cause far more harm than good. I've never seen something stop progress and solutions faster than politics.
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ArchAngel21x
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said by bmn:

So if the people at Berkeley found a cure for cancer, you would still call them idiots because you disagree with their political beliefs ? Would you then not use the drug if need be because you disagree with politics ?

No and No. Regardless of an organization's political views, if they did something as profound as find a cure to cancer I would acknowledge that.
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ArchAngel21x
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reply to bmn

said by bmn:
said by ArchAngel21x:
If they wanted accuracy, they should have started by taking into account only people with Internet access.
Information exists in far more diverse forms that digital data that is on the internet. An understanding of that basic fact seems to escape you based on your post.

said by karl:

Stats are pretty skewed when you consider they looked at the world's population, most of whom don't have computers....
If that's true then Karl also didn't understand that and he posted the article. Fo figure.
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[text was edited by author 2003-10-29 12:34:19]

bmn
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said by ArchAngel21x:
If that's true then Karl also didn't understand that and he posted the article. Fo figure.
First, it is true. Limiting it the computers and the internet would then make it a "worthless statistic". Information production is inherently multi-media. Think of the 4GB DVD or LP (record) you own, that's information (although redundant because its based on gigabytes more film, etc).

Secondly, I can not verify Karl's understanding of that concept simply because I am not Karl.
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ArchAngel21x
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said by bmn:

Secondly, I can not verify Karl's understanding of that concept simply because I am not Karl.

Then I would like to take it a step further and say that you can not verify my understanding, or lack of, because you are not me, and leave it at that.
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Karl Bode
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reply to ArchAngel21x
No, I understand it as I actually READ the whole report. I'm just suggesting that PC users likely generate far more data....

You apply that average across a world population that consists of a lot of people working for virtually no money toiling in fields, and how much new information do you think these people create? Text, digital, or otherwise?

Not much....
[text was edited by author 2003-10-29 13:20:01]


xrobertcmx
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reply to ArchAngel21x

said by ArchAngel21x:
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.

How so?


ArchAngel21x
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said by xrobertcmx:
said by ArchAngel21x:
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.

How so?
That is a discussion best left for another thread
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ghostpainter
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reply to CyberSchnook3
Especialy if you are a commie liberal leftest which most of the professors and students at BBR-USSR are....Isnt this where RIAA has it base....


bmn
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reply to ArchAngel21x

said by ArchAngel21x:
Then I would like to take it a step further and say that you can not verify my understanding, or lack of, because you are not me, and leave it at that.
To cap this line off... It is possible to gauge your understanding because of what you posted. You said clearly and distinctly how you understood the article. Karl on the other hand made no such stance. You gave us the information we needed to gauge your understanding, Karl did not.

We could run around in circles, but at this point its better just to leave this as is.
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Transmaster
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reply to ArchAngel21x
Don't mistake the Social Science colleges at Berkley for the Colleges which do hard science. Even when I lived out there in the late '60's the political activists Berkley where on another planet. The Hard science types where to
busy doing hard science to pay any attention to the what
these yippies where doing. It's the same way today, the only difference is it's those old yippies grand children
doing political thing.
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