Re: PASS IT ON: Please Don't Tax My Internet Access! in Technology Law & Politics http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r8380408 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:48:56 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:48:56 EDT Re: PASS IT ON: Please Don't Tax My Internet Access! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9173848 anon : I hope the ytax the crap out of internet sales, usage, all of it! Huh,why you may ask? Because they are going to anyway. The DNC list was strictly a revenue scheme(the gov't keeps the fine, you get squat!) so since I was against the DNC and everyone else who doe not understand economics was for it, us wealthy marketing gurus want to tax you out of YOUR business,tax the middle class to make them poor and lets just continue this blatent path of destruction. 10% TAX on all internet sales from buyer AND state sales tax, internet and cell tax .......Ihope it happens.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9173848 Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:59:43 EDT Re: Many facets of tax policy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8594862 USAOwnz : Guess they are greedy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8594862 Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:21:48 EDT Many facets of tax policy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8566476 tschmidt : We need to look at this issue carefully to balance the need for states to raise revenue and tax policy that interferes with innovation.

Taking a broad brush, one can break Internet taxation question into three categories: Access, Services and Transactions.

Access
States tax other forms of access I don't think the Federal Government should dictate whether or not they are able to tax the physical connection. I see little difference in this then taxes on Telephone, Cable, or Automobiles. That is an issue that should be resolved at the state level

Services
The Internet is a fundamentally new type of communication infrastructure. It is general-purpose able to carry any type of traffic. Historically each service required its own dedicated network, so taxes levied against Telephone service were really being levied/collected against the physical connection. Trying to force fit that to the Internet, where a service is just an applications riding on a general-purpose network is a mistake.

Currently this issue is typified by the debate over Voice over IP services. VoIP is an application, trying to tax specific applications is a mistake.

Transactions
There has be long rancorous debate over the issue of taxing Internet transactions, treating then the same as mail order or brick and mortar transactions. Personality I do not have strong bias between income based and consumption based taxation. Sales tax tends to be more regressive since the proportion of income spent on goods and service is higher at low-income levels then at high. Certainly, exemptions can be carved out but this adds to collection cost and creates a bureaucracy to determine what is and is not taxable.

Another issue is the Internet is international. A seller is faced with the prospect of dealing with government entities all the way down to the city level. This seems to be an inefficient way to collect revenue.

My personal choice is to eliminate sales tax altogether and transfer the burden to Income tax. This ought to be a more efficient collection mechanism and focuses tax collection on those who use the various government services, hopefully making a better connection between tax collection and the benefits government delivers.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8566476 Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:28:03 EDT Re: PASS IT ON: Please Don't Tax My Internet Acces http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8559221 ronpin :
said by mitchelllll See Profile:
The Internet Tax Non-Discrimination Act (S.150), ensures that states may not tax consumers for access to the Internet.

I switched to SBC's 6mbs DSL service in September. I just noticed a 7% itemized tax on my 99.95 Expert Plus account ($7 extra).

It seems Texas had stipulated its own Internet Access tax in 1999 -- even after the congressional ban on it (well, Bush was governor at the time). Here's the tax rule:
quote:
Internet Access Service. After October 1st of this year (1999), sales taxes will not be due on the first $25 of a monthly charge for access to the Internet. The monthly exemption will apply regardless of the billing period used and regardless of whether access charges are billed separately or bundled with other services. Significantly for business taxpayers in particular, the exemption will apply to the total amount paid for Internet access, whether billed in a lump sum or separately for each user. Thus, when access is purchased for multiple users, only the first $25 of the total monthly charge will be exempted - not $25 for each user.
I'm thinking SBC has always charged the 7% tax here in Texas (don't know about elsewhere). I don't recall Charter cable ever charging an access tax. Even worse, it doesn't appear that SBC subtracts the $25 exempted in the ruling above.
Question: Has Texas been in violation of the Internet Access Tax ban since 1999 until This month???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8559221 Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:21:10 EDT Re: PASS IT ON: Please Don't Tax My Internet Access! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8558855 marigolds : Well, the bill to extend indefinitely did not pass. I have not heard anything about a new bill to replace it yet, though one should come soon.
So, I guess technically you can be taxed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8558855 Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:42:08 EDT Re: Tax on Internet Access! DSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8557936 anon : My new DSL provider (ISN Communications) has Fed & State taxes on my first bill. Did the exemption from taxes expire on Nov. 1st?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8557936 Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:08:06 EDT Re: PASS IT ON: Please Don't Tax My Internet Access! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8460365 marigolds : FYI, this bill died last night. Basically the estimated state and local tax revenue losses were too big and it was killed in the Senate. Expect a new version with a narrow definition of internet services to come forward.
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That part of the legislation needs to be removed and the ban should still retain a sunset clause sometime in the future.
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Imagine you live in New York, your ISP is in New Jersey, and your purchase is from California. Whose state tax do you pay and to whom do you pay?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8378958 Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:54 EDT PASS IT ON: Please Don't Tax My Internet Access! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8377350 mitchelllll : Hi everyone-

This Halloween, the U.S. Senate may pull an expensive trick on anyone who uses the Internet to send a message, pay a bill or make an on-line purchase.

Take ACTION now to prevent state and local governments from taxing your Internet access!

»tinyurl.com/sw31

We all depend on the Internet for communication. The Senate is ready to pass legislation that would *permanently* prevent state and local governments from taxing your Internet access! This is a good thing :) Your help is needed to keep a moratorium in place that expires on November 1, 2003. If the ban ends, state and local governments will be able to tax you for access.

The Internet Tax Non-Discrimination Act (S.150), ensures that states may not tax consumers for access to the Internet. This bill also (permanently) extends the existing moratorium against multiple taxes on e-commerce.

The Internet provides all of us with an important tool and is crucial for the health of our economy. Currently, half of all Americans have
access to the Internet – let's ensure that access to the Information Highway can be expanded to all Americans.

As many as 140 million Americans could have a new tax to pay if the Internet Tax Moratorium expires October 31st. Tell the Senate to Pass the Internet Tax Moratorium. Take ACTION now!

»tinyurl.com/sw31

Thank you-
Mitch Arnowitz

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