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 kstuartKen StuartPremium
join:2003-10-15
N California | reply to elvey
Re: [General] Hey SBC Techs, what's with abuse@pac quote:
1)You call it SPAM not spam, which is rude to the folks at Hormel.
The term "spam" (or "SPAM") for unsolicited email originated as a reference to a Monty Python skit about the canned meat product, so any use of the word could be considered "rude" to the maker of the product, were it not for the fact that sales of the product are undoubtedly much higher due to the constant "advertising" that occurs when the word is used.
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There's an antispam site at spamcop.net, but it doesn't block email. If you don't want to use SpamCop's SCBL to filter your own mail, don't.
My ISP (I have not fully moved email over to SBC) - due to public dissatisfaction with the realities of SPAM - blocks all email identified by a variety of opportunistic and self-important sites like spamcop.net unless the user inquires and finds out that there is an obscure web site where you can disconnect the blocking. The email are still identified by a header and I have setup my email software to route those to a special folder, which is how I knew about the PayPal example - one of many legitimate emails that would be blocked by these services.
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3)Non-membership in a white list sure isn't a 'sure fire way to identify SPAM or spammers'.
I did not say that. I said "The only anti-SPAM solution is whitelists."
Blacklists block most spam and block some legitimate email.
Whitelists block all unsoliticed email and block no legitimate email. This is by definition.
If I install a whitelist program, and I only put the email addresses of my family and friends in the whitelist, then by definition all email from everyone else is "unsolicited".
Then all I have to do is to add addresses to the whitelist, when I signup for accounts with web retailers and other services.
Whitelists correspond to the way human beings do everything.
For example, do you allow anyone into your house, except people who are known troublemakers? No. You only allow a small number of people into your house whom you have identified as someone you want there - either you give them a key (which is equivalent to being on a whitelist), or you let them in when they knock and have a good reason (which is when someone replies to the original "message blocked" notification from the whitelist).
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | said by kstuart:
Whitelists block all unsoliticed email and block no legitimate email. This is by definition.
Yes, and "by definition" you live in a dreamworld.
Everybody else on the planet has correspondents who change their email address, has long-lost friends ("Is this the Steve Friedl who ...") and - dare I say it? - prospective customers asking if I can recover a hard drive or write a bit of communications software.
Whitelists are great - kinda like Santa Claus.
Steve
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