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91439306
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join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT

Adobe Photoshop CS alleged to contain SPYWARE

If you've bought Photoshop CS and have noticed a new service called "Adobe LM Service", this is Macrovision SafeCast spyware.

Is this part of the foul Product Activation that we already knew about, or a different virus?

Not quite a virus, but SafeCast does a lot more than advertised.

Each time Photoshop is started, SafeCast takes an inventory of the machine it's installed on, and will refuse to load the application if it decides too much has changed. The copy protection appears to be analogous to that found in Windows XP: »www.macrovision.com/products/saf···aq.shtml

The most frightening part of SafeCast is that the licensing terms can be changed AFTER THE PRODUCT IS PURCHASED.
So, for example, if Abobe decides to make Photoshop a
pay-per-use application and customers do not agree to these
terms, Adobe can remotely pull the plug on these customers.

Not only has Adobe gotten on the Windows XP bandwagon, but now they are adopting the new Microsoft goal of being able to change the rules any time they desire, after you've agreed to the original license.
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Viggen93
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join:2002-04-16
Hamilton, ON

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Not only has Adobe gotten on the Windows XP bandwagon, but now they are adopting the new Microsoft goal of being able to change the rules any time they desire, after you've agreed to the original license.

I'm pretty sure there are laws against changing conditions on a purchased product after it has been paid for. I remember something about that from reading through documentation in the SCO vs. IBM case. Though there may be a problem if you agree to the agreement changing, I think the only way ISP's get away with this is that their service is paid for on a monthly basis, so their wording is something like "should you wish to continue to use XYZ service, you must agree to our amended terms and conditions".
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howesey

join:2003-12-12

reply to 91439306
»discuss.futuremark.com/forum/sho···=3152127

Just hit the forums at FM.



reaver221

join:2003-05-08
Cincinnati, OH

reply to 91439306
Interesting. I hadn't heard about this until now.

It's easily crackable though.

I tried using a widely available cracked version of AdobeLM.dll with a copy of Photoshop CS recently, and I couldn't catch any outgoing traffic from Photoshop with Ethereal. This experiment was for, well, experimental purposes only, of course.

One annoying thing, is that even if you disable the Adobe LM service, Photoshop sets it back to manual next start.



Ranterificerous

@12.162.x.x

reply to 91439306
Things like that only encourage me to steal what I would have bought otherwise.



guesttr4

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reply to 91439306
right... when is the last time you paid for photoshop? Things like that are designed to prevent software theft, and if you really buy the software then you'll by happy when they pass the savings in piracy reduction back onto you. Adobe is a good company and they are not about to do anything to piss off the few customers they have by making unreasonable changes in the agreement. This system is designed to prevent theft, period. If you're angry about it, it's probably because you're not paying for the software, so don't act all violated. Gooday.



91439306
15,000 Watts of Bass Power

join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT

reply to 91439306
Even so, consumers are right to be concerned about an application that may need re-activation, especially if Adobe goes out of business one day.

(Nobody expected Bloomingdale's to go out of business...)



BeOS-Jace

@kutztown.edu

reply to 91439306
We bought Photoshop CS (Windows) here at the school, and it is the non-activation version. When running, it is constantly sending and receiving data over our LAN. What is going on? Is this related to what you folks were talking about?


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