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IIIBradIII
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Why do they continue to ignore the obvious

Look, just penalize the company whose products and services are being peddled via spam and 90% of spam goes away. Simple.

Tax email? Give me a break.
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Blackhood5
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said by IIIBradIII:
Look, just penalize the company whose products and services are being peddled via spam and 90% of spam goes away. Simple.

Tax email? Give me a break.

Exactly, fine the company whose product is being advertised and they will find another way to advertise.
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dave
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reply to IIIBradIII
So if I send out anonymous mail saying "buy Norton something-or-other", Symantec gets to pay a fine?

That hardly seems fair.



J D McDorce
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join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI

reply to IIIBradIII

said by IIIBradIII:
Look, just penalize the company whose products and services are being peddled via spam and 90% of spam goes away. Simple.
That would be one way to put Pfizer out of business.


IIIBradIII
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reply to dave
C'mon dave - use your head here. Our legal system defends falsely accused people everyday, and the truth comes out. Nothing will change here. I could tell an officer you just punched someone but they'd have to get some proof before convicting you.
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IIIBradIII
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reply to J D McDorce
Something tells me they'd find above-board methods of promoting their little blue pill before the law was even signed.
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dave
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reply to IIIBradIII
Sure, but if all it takes is some moron with an email account, and then as a result Symantec has to pay some lawyers to show up in court to defend themselves, then we haven't really improved anything. All we've done is to increase the financial damage caused.

I'd hazard a guess that most spam is not advertising products with the consent of the manufacturers of those products.

OK, maybe the porno-web-site spam is actually sent at the request of the porno-web-site operator, but I assume that most of other junk is not.

Re: telling a cop I punched someone. The analogy is not exact. You'd have to actually punch a few million people (the spamming offence was actually committed), and then the victims should start a class-action lawsuit against me, since they'd somehow believe I paid to have them punched. Then I'd have to defend myself against a few million well-intentioned but misled plaintiffs.



IIIBradIII
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Ok then, let's hear your solution.



Jason Levine
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said by dave:
Sure, but if all it takes is some moron with an email account, and then as a result Symantec has to pay some lawyers to show up in court to defend themselves, then we haven't really improved anything. All we've done is to increase the financial damage caused.
Not only that, but any underhanded competitor could pay a spammer to spam in a company's name and that company would then need to defend itself against spamming charges.
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dave
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said by IIIBradIII:
Ok then, let's hear your solution.
I think the best hope is a replacement protocol, and the IETF are working on it.

I think the IETF is best-placed to solve the problem because:

1) Any solution must have Internet Standard approval in order to become universal, which is essential.

2) The IETF has more experience with handling the big picture than any specific ISP or vendor does.

Here is a draft RFC one such replacement protocol, just as an example. I haven't read it and thus have no opinion on it, I merely throw it out as evidence that the IETF is on the case. Unfortunately, replacing a twenty-year old global framework takes time: it's only in the last couple of years that we've had to worry about protecting against scumbags. I'd rather wait for the right solution than adopt something that's suboptimal.


bolt
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said by IIIBradIII:
Ok then, let's hear your solution.

I think allowing people to legally hunt down and kill the spammers would be most appropriate. You know, a Spammer Bounty Maybe assign point based on the spammers identity and how much spam has been sent. Points could be redeemed for dvds, cds, et al. Extra points awarded for creativity.

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