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reply to wilburyan

Re: Not going there

said by wilburyan:
"Hydro-Québec to launch trials"

And Trials is what they are. If any problems come up and the problems outweigh the benefits then it should be and most likely will be canned. If the problem is only a couple HAM ops are getting some static then they will have to suck it up. I mean almost everything throws off some kinda interference. When I use my cordless phone and the microwave is running, behold, my phone gets static... it happens, and I deal with it.

I agree with you about almost everything emitting interference. But you mention sporadic interference; when our friends to the north begin trials, the results will, hopefully, be widely publicized. Hopefully, we hams will be proven wrong about the deleterious effect of BPL on a world-wide scale, and that interference will be slight to non-existant, but I have my doubts... There are trials in Manassas which are ongoing and the subject of some hot debate.

If they use 5 GHz BPL, then there will be none of that, and local interference(if any)is much more easily mitigated.

Don't get me wrong, though... I hope that broadband can be brought to everyone in the world who wants it.
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Tomek
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Do new cordless phones and wi-fi(a) use 5Ghz spectrum?
I wonder what kind of interference exists with BPL.
Maybe Quebec trials can resolved them.
I would like to see some competition and prices dropping, speeds increasing.
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said by Tomek:
Do new cordless phones and wi-fi(a) use 5Ghz spectrum?
I wonder what kind of interference exists with BPL.
Maybe Quebec trials can resolved them.
I would like to see some competition and prices dropping, speeds increasing.

This may be an incomplete response, but the info I have is:

There are, in the US, cordless phones that use 5 GHz; don't know about our friends to the north.

It has been pointed out by other posters in other threads that 802.11(a) is mainly an inside, shorter range(not sure, but FHSS is the spreading scheme-I think-versus DSSS) utilization of Wi-Fi, so interference is not likely to be difficult to mitigate.

I would also like to see prices down and speeds/throughput up.

I would hazard a guess that there will be MANY eyes on this one.
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I hope they get the bugs worked out (so I can try something similar in my neighborhood.) The last time I checked, certain kinds of low-power carrier current broadcasting can be done legally without a license. Unfortunately those frequencies are probably too low to be useful.
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said by TheNerdShow:
I hope they get the bugs worked out (so I can try something similar in my neighborhood.) The last time I checked, certain kinds of low-power carrier current broadcasting can be done legally without a license. Unfortunately those frequencies are probably too low to be useful.

Sure, but watch out for part 15! There are many technologies and networking topologies that utilize powerlines in the residence, but the power levels needed and ancillary equipment required(repeaters) make it unfeasible to implement by the private sector. There are intercoms you can get from radio shack that use FM, but those are fairly narrowband.
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