OptimumOnline → Re: 167.206.5.85/32 [*.srv.hcvlny.cv.net] BLACKLISTED.

said by Jmartz0:

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These people are worse then running a web server if you ask me.

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Refresh my memory, what's so bad about running a web server in the first place?

edit: I'm confused, is the OOL MTA blacklisted, or is the streetspirit's ip blacklisted, and if so did the mail bounce because his setup sent the mail direct, or is the filter so sophisticated that it figured out his IP was sending through OOL's mail transfer agent

OOL is blacklisted it self.
Why is runing a webserver so bad.
Well your on a shared network with 500 other people on your node.
If one of you host a webserver and lets say you put up a Picture of Britney Spears Kissing Beyonce. And tons of people flood into see it. Then not only will Tons of other people have trouble accessing your site. But the other 499 people on your node will have trouble getting online.

said by AVD:

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Refresh my memory, what's so bad about running a web server in the first place?

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See, "technically" it's against the TOS. However, a web server is only going to affect people on a node, which at max would be 500 people, but usually a lot less.

An open email server that has been compromised, can potentially cause problems for over a million users.

So there really isn't a way to compare the two when you look at what each one can do to the network. But if you were to try and compare the two; running a web server is the least of OOL's problems at the moment. At least I think so.

And I didn't mean to turn this into a debate about the two. But I was just trying to figure out what OOL is thinking by trying to compare the two and figure out why they prefer to protect 500 people (much less than that in most areas) and not the million or so that rely on email...

The OOL mail server is blacklisted because spam was sent through it. It is not an open relay, so someone on the OOL net was spamming and it was reported to SORBS. The destination system used SORBS as the basis for rejecting the email.

said by AVD:

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said by Jmartz0:

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These people are worse then running a web server if you ask me.

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edit: I'm confused, is the OOL MTA blacklisted, or is the streetspirit's ip blacklisted, and if so did the mail bounce because his setup sent the mail direct, or is the filter so sophisticated that it figured out his IP was sending through OOL's mail transfer agent

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The OOL MTA is blacklisted. My IP has nothing to do with it.


[EDIT: This machine has a shell login, acts as a DNS server, has a webserver that throws a 403, and is an MTA. Perhaps that machine is exploited - Good point Rainier.]

said by Kip patterson:

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The OOL mail server is blacklisted because spam was sent through it. It is not an open relay, so someone on the OOL net was spamming and it was reported to SORBS. The destination system used SORBS as the basis for rejecting the email.

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In order for a IP range to get blocked its more than one person sending spam. OOL's mail appliances on the net and outside their DMZ are most likely being owned and used a relays without them even knowing. Zombied mail servers or even peoples virus-ed PC's can generate thousands of mails a day to anywhere in the world. Lots of ISP's are blocking OOL addys these days, there was even a news article on it. Its a case of having a weak mail system.