http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r8677882 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:49:14 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:49:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8687387 MeNaCeDog : Directv doesnt' charge for your first reciver. vs cox charges for evey reciver. If you dont' belive me on the price check this out..... »www.jdpower.com/cc/telecom/jdpa_···eSat.jsp
I value jdpower very highly... this sums it up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8687387 Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:24:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8681953 gpancner : care for some cheese with your whine? and the local channels you get from dtv are analog signals digitally compressed you uninformed being.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8681953 Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:27:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8678199 oliphant5 : They also have a website »www.makethemplayfair.com/

Cox doesn't charge $155 for their top tier. It's about $90 (exp basic $29+$11.95 for top tier digital and another $30 for all their premiums...then add on for extra boxes and franchise fees). While total choice premier with locals from DirecTV is $88.00 and NFLST is another $14/mo plus $5 for each additional receiver. So no, you aren't getting DTV's top tier and NFL ST for $85/mo. And yeah, you pay .22 for the remote with Cox but only $3.95 for the digital converter...cheaper than DTV's or DN's $5 per box access fee. Cox does have a per outlet charge (a splitter rental) if you don't use your own splitters and with DTV you have to buy your equipment (unless you want junk then you can get a free deal) but it's an expensive proposition if you want 2 HDTV converters like I have from Comcast. Plus if anything breaks...they fix it...unlike DBS. Outta warranty, outta luck.

Cox LV also offers HDTV locals...not available with DirecTV. So while DirecTV may be cool in some ways (DirecTiVo, NFLST) they aren't in others (no HD locals, no VoD).

As for 100% digital, that doesn't mean anything. Digital is all about compression. When I had DN they cranked up the compression so much my locals were unwatchable. As much as I hate Comcast's pricing...my analog locals are far superior in image quality compared to my neighbor's DTV locals and of course my HDTV locals flat smoke DTV locals.

DBS isn't the end all be all...not yet anyway. As soon as DBS offers HD locals and reasonably priced HD converters I'm gone...but as for now...I'm not dropping $1200 just to get 2 HDTV converters to get all of a 1/2 dozen HD channels.

It's not like I don't want to either. I'm sick of Comcast's price increases and I just got Verizon DSL for $30/mo so I don't need Comcast HSI. But after pricing DTV for what I need (2 HD boxes with firewire for DVHS recording and 1 regular DTV box, plus install and programming)...I would pay paying FAR more with DTV than I am with Comcast...and would be getting less programming (that I watch) than I'm currently getting. So I'm stuck.
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Don't get it, demand it! The Anime Network »www.theanimenetwork.com/index.html ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8678199 Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:28:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8677901 MeNaCeDog : here in las Vegas Cox is running radio/tv ads againest ESPN personally i have DTV and for their best package i pay $85 a mo. that's with TIVO and evey movie channel and NFL Sunday ticket! same package excluding NFL because Cox can't offer it I would be paying $155 a mo! without a cable modem..... I have sprint DSL..... now for the same programing and a DVR I'm paying $70 a mo less... these prices are not inflated my neighbor has almost same as me with cox but no DVR or NFL and pays 70 more... something just don't seem right. Cable makes a claim you have to pay for local channels, you do $5 a mo and they are 100% digital not like cable. People wake up will you! your paying $70 more a month for you stupid digital cable!

P.S. Cox also charges .22cents per remote per month!!!
as far as I'm concerned i hope they drop espn so more people come to DTV and save some money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8677901 Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:02:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8677882 moonpuppy : I'm grabbing the popcorn and watching the whole thing go down.

Now say it with me boys and girls, can you say "re-regulation?" I knew you could.

They cried so desperately they could control themselves if they were simply deregulated. Guess what? They lied.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8677882 Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:00:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8677624 oliphant5 : Corporate protests to mergers don't mean anything. Murdoch boo hooed over the DN DTV merger...and we knew then why. He wanted DTV. But all providers have an unfair advantage...just like Comcast squeezing TechTV as they try to buy it and increase viewship of their own G4 network. Fox already has a long history of screwing over distributors...even their own partners(as was the case with the X-Files sale to FX).

This purchase wouldn't be a problem if programmers were put in check for their price gouging. More providers like Comcast and Cox need to just say no to these insane programmers and their 50% yearly increases. Put ESPN and Fox Movie Channel on their own tiers. Drop Fox Sports from their line ups. DTV viewship is a drop in the bucket compared to giants like Comcast, Cox and Time Warner. Dish Network plays hardball with these programmers which is why they haven't had significant price increases.

Let Murdoch reap going from 50 million viewers to 6 should he try and turn the screws on competitors.
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Don't get it, demand it! The Anime Network »www.theanimenetwork.com/index.html ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8677624 Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:42:03 EDT