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technick
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Wheat Ridge, CO
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Haha

If the goverment didn't suck so much, maybe some big boys might try to get jobs helping them out. I know if the goverment threw in tax exempt status and a very good paycheck, i'll be on board in seconds.
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bmn
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said by technick:
I know if the goverment threw in tax exempt status and a very good paycheck, i'll be on board in seconds.
*heh* I don't know about the tax exempt status, but working in IT for the government pays very well when you include all the benefits (vacation, pension, insurance, etc). I did it a year or two ago and was disappointed when the project ended because I knew I had to go back to the private sector.
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FLECOM
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said by bmn:
*heh* I don't know about the tax exempt status, but working in IT for the government pays very well when you include all the benefits (vacation, pension, insurance, etc). I did it a year or two ago and was disappointed when the project ended because I knew I had to go back to the private sector.
i would take a job w/big brother as long as the pay didnt suck...

they pay techs like if they were working at a McDonalds in the agencies around here...

the only decent government agency down here is the county... they at least pay somewhat decent... and they do have nice benfits... which is always a plus i suppose
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Drex
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La Place, LA
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I work for a government subcontract. I have nice benfits and they pay me well considering the area I live in (New Orleans is not well known for their "technology").

However, like badmagicnumber said once your project is up, if they don't find you a new one, you're gone. Or worse yet, the government decides to renew the contract with another company. 9 times out of 10 you'll be assimilated into that new company, but what if you liked the old one better?
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stromi

join:2000-06-11
Englishtown, NJ

reply to technick
Most IT Jobs (Real Jobs, Not sub-contractors) are between the GS-11 (40K to 50K) and GS-13 (60K to 80K)level. Benefits are locality pay, 401K (TSP), insurance and job security. The pay is generally less than what you would make private sector, but not by much. GS-14 and up are rare outside the beltway.

The Gov pays top dollar for subs, and often times the actual cost is 200% of an employee (once the vendor takes their piece on top of the salary). Of course, when the project is done, the sub is gone.

What the implications of this are is the younger, highly skilled techs flit in and out of contracts, and by and large, the GOV guys are dinosaurs from the main-frame days. This is changing as the workforce is getting old and retiring.

As far as the audit report goes, its accurate, but its just happenstance that they got it right, the auditors are generally clueless as to the real world implications of a percieved vulnerability.

Without revealing details, a guy could get dinged on failing to configure a router to block tcp-syn-flood attacks on an enclosed private network, but not get dinged for having an open SMTP relay.

It terms of access, most of the audits are peformed by contractors from Top Accounting Firms (Think Arthur Anderson for a moment please) under contract with Agencie's Inspector General, so they hit the real stuff, but there are "Rules of Engagement" that prevent real info from being leaked.

They use a NIST checklist, about 26 terrabytes of outdated policy, and automated tools (think ISS, NMAP, l0Phtcrack, etc).


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