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The Way Out

join:2003-01-20

Don't trust the Lock icon either!

Want to see something scary? Try this link:

https://www.paypal.com

It says PayPal in the URL, but it's not paypal! You'll notice that it still displays the "Lock" in the bottom right hand corner, too. Be afraid. :|


justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
New York, NY
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Did you knock this site up? i was going to try an https redirect to see if it could be done, it seemed like it could but I didn't have a domain handy.


The Way Out

join:2003-01-20

Yes, I set it up. As long as the "real" webhost has a valid SSL certificate (and is issued by a root that is trusted by the browser), no warning is popped up at all. Scary, huh.



justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
New York, NY
kudos:7

I figured it would work, as its just a display bug, really. Damn. I updated the news bit to link to your post demonstrating the fake encrypted site that gives no alerts about the certificate not matching what is displayed in the address bar.


espionage007

join:2003-06-14
Herndon, VA

reply to The Way Out
omg no way!! you're one evil genius



Fireshield

join:2001-10-08
Champlin, MN

reply to The Way Out
Hmmmm...when I click it I get »secure.divo.net/notpaypal/ in the address bar.

IE Version 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.030422-1633



justin
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1 edit

hover your link over his paypal link .. see (phish removed) ?

I added phish protection to these forums

but it did work just fine, he is right.

edit: protection will be lifted shortly just for his post. Try it later if you're still interested.



kwitko7
Shacklyn Nights
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join:2000-06-10
Middle Village, NY

reply to The Way Out
Interesting, using IE through Avant Browser, I get
»www.paypal.com@secure.divo.n···tpaypal/

But using IE standalone I get:
»www.paypal.com/

Using Firebird I get
»www.paypal.com%01@secure.divo.net/notpaypal/
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steven s
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join:2002-09-14
Dearborn, MI

reply to The Way Out
The address bar doesn't even say www.paypal.com
It says "https://www.paypal.com%01@secure.divo.net/notpaypal/"


petrus

join:2002-01-09
Atlanta, GA

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reply to kwitko7

Avant Browser

I experienced the same thing using Avant Browser. Does Avant Browser somehow make IE more secure?


Fireshield

join:2001-10-08
Champlin, MN

reply to justin

Re: Don't trust the Lock icon either!

Thanks justin See Profile. You're right, it does work. Rather scary!


Googled
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join:2001-08-13
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reply to justin
I was thinking some more about this bug and I came up with an even scarier usage.

Using the Apache "Redirect" directive you can phish an entire site! Just put this into your httpd.conf!


Redirect /test "http://www.domainyouwant.com^A@www.domainyouhave.com"


Now anyone who visits www.domainyouhave.com/test will be redirected to the phished site! Doing this makes IE automatically modify EVERY link on the page to a phished version!

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justin
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thats cute. I figured there would be creative use of redirectors.

I mean - you could post one of those "Special offer" links, the ones that nobody expects to look correct because they are long and have affiliate pay-on-click codes in them? - and then redirect to a phished version of SBC DSL signup page and keep them within it. Then collect credit card numbers for days before the victims noticed.



mod bait
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Rochester, NY

reply to The Way Out
/extreme_sarcasm

Well, hopefully, Microsoft will give this matter several weeks or months of careful consideration and analysis, as they seem to be with the recently-announced active scripting exploits.

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"Security is a tax on the honest." --Bruce Schneier, Beyond Fear, Copernicus, 2003


jbone_99

join:2003-12-21
Washington, DC

reply to The Way Out
I actually blocked the link from showing up using ad blocker in norton IS



HalfFull
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join:2002-12-20
Chesapeake, VA

reply to The Way Out

said by The Way Out:
Want to see something scary? Try this link:

https://www.paypal.com

It says PayPal in the URL, but it's not paypal! You'll notice that it still displays the "Lock" in the bottom right hand corner, too. Be afraid. :|

sad...since Micro$oft is to cheap to fix the flaw, legitimate businesses will be hurt as the security problem is more publicized. Computer-challenged people won't buy on-line because they will be afraid of a scam...

ephilipps
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join:2004-01-09
Buffalo, NY

reply to The Way Out
ViruScan Enterprise pops a window just by opening the forum post. I guess Microsoft will get around to this soomer or later....


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