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youngo

join:2001-07-03

reply to b_zen

Re: Beware

said by b_zen:
Microsoft is the king of the hill because most of us have grown up using their environment in schools, work or home computers. Having the ability to choose your favorite OS was not a choice we had.

sounds like, "the resolution and frame rate of tv's are king of the hill because msot of us have grown up using the settings. Having the ability to choose 1600x1200 @ 120fps was not a choice we had."


b_zen
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join:2002-07-24
Saint Louis, MO

Have you read what I was referring to? Also, english isn't my mothertongue...


RayW
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Layton, UT
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reply to youngo

said by youngo:

sounds like, "the resolution and frame rate of tv's are king of the hill because msot of us have grown up using the settings. Having the ability to choose 1600x1200 @ 120fps was not a choice we had."

When I was working for General Dynamics in Fort Worth, Texas back around 1993, we used a new program called Microsoft Mail (I think that was the name). It worked fine in small companies, but not for our 25000 person company.

For over 6 months we kept getting promises that the fix was coming to let us use this powerful tool the way the spec said it could be used. One day the manager for computer support got on the phone with a manager from microsoft (after plowing through the peons) and was told that we were not getting our promised upgrade because the programmers were pulled for the kill Netscape project (a paraphrase, but close enough to what I personally heard).

Now you might ask what does that story have to do with this thread? Nothing, except to point out that Gates makes his own rules, and anyone who gets in the way will be crushed. If Bill did not have to worry about the backlash, he could crush open-source and Linux without thinking twice by his control over the majority of that type of system. Just look at the minor effort he expends overseas to keep big organizations from changing over. If he wants a true DRM system with M$ getting royalties and controlling access, then we will see it. And as another post here shows, he learned his lesson with Clinton and is buying politicians.
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skitshivets
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join:2004-01-24
Plano, TX

said by RayW:
said by youngo:

sounds like, "the resolution and frame rate of tv's are king of the hill because msot of us have grown up using the settings. Having the ability to choose 1600x1200 @ 120fps was not a choice we had."

When I was working for General Dynamics in Fort Worth, Texas back around 1993, we used a new program called Microsoft Mail (I think that was the name). It worked fine in small companies, but not for our 25000 person company.

For over 6 months we kept getting promises that the fix was coming to let us use this powerful tool the way the spec said it could be used. One day the manager for computer support got on the phone with a manager from microsoft (after plowing through the peons) and was told that we were not getting our promised upgrade because the programmers were pulled for the kill Netscape project (a paraphrase, but close enough to what I personally heard).


Must have been later than '93. For a company of 20K plus, IBM profs (sic) was still king of hill although very proprietary with Banyan mail having the ability to serve almost that many due to the advanced vines NOS and ccMail was emerging as the (client/server, Netware, on-the-cheap pc based) choice. Asking MS to forge-on to multi-server mail then was asking them to go to Mars in a week. Exchange didn't make prime time till the '95-96 time frame and we all know V.1.0 of anything "ain't there yet". The real holder of the client/server enterprise wide mail opportunity in the '93 time frame was Banyan and they failed to capitalize.

Also, I don't think MS saw the web as anything other than network CB radio back in the early '90, they missed it; remember Bill Gate's ballyhooed book where he failed to mention the internet?

They're just big and port other folks SW ideas to cheap multivendor platforms and they do it on a mass production scale; if you don't execute on a good idea they eventually roll over you. Yea capitalism!

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