Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r9356306 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:23:50 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:23:50 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9546354 Ender3rd :
said by Dude111 See Profile:
What about the registry entries for trillian????

Im trying to find a full DL of the latest TRIALLIAN PRO (2.01) anyone no where i an get it??????

The Dude :)

When you run it the first time it makes any registry entries it needs. All of its configuration information is kept in the Trillian directory in *.ini files.

Ender]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9546354 Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:07:56 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9467012 Dude111 : I also used add/remove to uninstall Wild Tangent!!

IT WAS STILL THERE!!!!!!!! 11 TRACES OF IT!!!!!!!

Thank god i have Reg Sweeper.....

Oh,i have UNINSTALLED AIM 5.5 I figure i am quite happy with 5.2.3277 and dont need the extra crap in 5.5

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9467012 Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:21:08 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9454710 DSL_Steve : Just checked my system and registry for WCMDMGR and WCMDMGRL.EXE and they are nowhere to be found. So I guess they get uninstalled by the WT uninstaller.

[BTW: I used the Add/remove Programs cp to uninstall WildTangent.]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9454710 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:00:30 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9453788 Dude111 : Well,

Regardless they are both gone!!!! They have been for months (I also have 5.2.3277 on here) However,i dont get VIDEO ADS,i just get plain HTML ads(Be4 i blocked it in the host file)

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9453788 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:19:47 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9453339 DSL_Steve :
said by Dude111 See Profile:
If Wild Tangent plays the annoying ads in the top of the buddy window,WHYT AM I GETITNG ADS? (WT IS GONE!!)

Before i added AOL's site to my host filke i still got ads (recently) and i dont have any WT!!!!

Oh well.....Im testing this s/w here,so.............

The Dude :)


Please reread. Viewpoint plays the ads in AIM, not WT.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9453339 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:36:49 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9453248 Dude111 : If Wild Tangent plays the annoying ads in the top of the buddy window,WHYT AM I GETITNG ADS? (WT IS GONE!!)

Before i added AOL's site to my host filke i still got ads (recently) and i dont have any WT!!!!

Oh well.....Im testing this s/w here,so.............

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9453248 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:28:19 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9451756 DSL_Steve : It seems that when we all uninstalled Wildtangent (using the Add/Remove Programs cp and SpyBot), there is something left behind (WCMDMGRL.EXE) that requires manual uninstall.

[from another article at BOClean]
Greetings, and my apologies for both the delay AND the confusion there. Yes indeed, AOL's snappy new "Instant Messenger" does contain WildTangent - their "partnership" in popup advertising is part of their new "buddy games" "feature."

WildTangent is a "borderline" trojan - actually defined as "adware" and where we cut the mustard is a complicated legal thing that Nancy can explain better than I can. But legally, most of the WildTangent stuff is not "officially" a trojan except for the one part that BOClean brought down. On "Unca Kevin's 'scale-o-evil'", WildTangent rates a 2 out of 100 since it's a minor one - just that one module actually.

The reasoning is this - WildTangent DOES place a working uninstaller on the control panel. If you go there to the "Add/Remove software" item and remove the "WildTangent" stuff, almost ALL of it does go away. The "WCMDMGRL.EXE" item will remain running and will not come out. This ONE piece is the actual "trojan" ... the other item detected by a few others is the "updater" for it. A fresh new one was made for AOL exclusively so THEY could provide advertising. Also, another factor is that when people go to install anything containing "WildTangent" there ***IS*** a VERY clearly stated warning of what WildTangent is and what it does from a privacy standpoint in the license agreement prior to installation. Folks don't read it though.

Just so you know though, we DID update BOClean to get the "updater" as well - you might want to check our site if you haven't updated already. Unlike the "WCMDMGRL.EXE" item though, the "WCMDMGR" portion is controlled directly by AOL-IM itself and that's why BOClean didn't get it at the same time - it wasn't running or TRYING to run until the firewall nabbed it first and locked access in my best estimation of what happened. BOClean DOES detect that one also however had the firewall not hit it first.

As to the registry entries, those would belong to the entire SET of WildTangent files and the "game pieces" belonging to it. The registry entry associated with "WCMDMGRL" would have been removed by BOClean but any others unrelated would have remained.

What you'll want to do (of course, ditch that AIM first) is go to your Program files folder and have a look at all the "WildTangent" subfolder. There'll also be more in the \(windows)\WT folder ... there's a lot of stuff in there. Running the "Add/Remove" from the control panel however for "WildTangent" WILL remove all this - and BECAUSE the uninstall works for everything else, there was no need for BOClean to go after that since it can't run without the piece we "took out." AOL however has decided to make SURE that if you remove it, they can put it back, thus the other bit of the "surprise" ...

Once again, apologies for the delay - we're insanely busy on this end since the appearance of "mydoom." The BEST way to get ahold of us quickly is directly to:

support(at)nsclean.com

First priority - find and kill nasties. Second priority, support email. Third, questions email, Fourth, code for the future. Last priority, "groups" ... sorry about that.

Been a long night, I go home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9451756 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:38:56 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9451347 katarina : I also uninstalled WildTangent ... and SpyBot got a remaining WT registry entry. Spysweeper didn't find any additional WildTangent references. It also has not come back ... but I've only been playing with AIM for a few days.

I have not yet been brave enough to try any other more comprehensive registry scanning/fixing software to see if there is more in there. One new software program at a time!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9451347 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:54:26 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9450868 Randy Bell : Steve I uninstalled the AIM WT component and it hasn't come back on its own .. so I'm not sure if that is correct. ;-)
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(1)Viewpoint Media Player runs the AIM video ads in the upper portion of the buddy list window. and..

(2)WildTangent is for a new AIM buddy-games "feature" that auto updates files used to play these games AND if you uninstall WT and continue to use AIM, it may/will get automatically reinstalled again.

Do I have it correctly?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9449802 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:35:44 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9448700 neutral :
said by Steely See Profile:
But if you want to enjoy the benefits of this very robust free program, I think you have to expect to pay the piper on some level at some point.


If you don't mind "paying the piper", then why use DeadAIM to remove the ads? ;)

I don't mind the ads so much, but jeez, I just want AIM.... not AOD or Viewpoint or Wild Tangent or games or, etc etc. It's starting to remind me of installing the old Netscape packages with all the "extras". :mad: Think I may try an earlier version. Will AIM will force me to upgrade to get on if I install, say, 4.8 or 5.0.xx ?
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#dslr | muzak]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9448700 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 04:18:34 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9448572 Dude111 : I DL'ed Aim 5.5 to test drive it (5.5.3553) AND here is my report so far:

UNINSTALLING WILD TANGENT DOESNT GET RID OF IT!!!!!

I uninstalled it,thought it was gone,ran reg sweeper and found it still there (11 traces of it)

And i also found viewpoint.exe still there along with 4 other entries for viewpoint.... :(

I have removed all that crap now,im gonna give it a few days and see how i like it..I like the REAL TIME status updates in the chat window (Away,back,etc.....) And this version doesnt slow down my computer like 5.5.5415 did,holy s**t!!

Ill let you know........

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9448572 Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:35:22 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9445934 hayc59 : ViewPoint Media Player
thank you for the info on this sucker!!
all gone now:)
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9.11.01 ----- Never Forget ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9445934 Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:32:12 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9445607 TeMerc : Yes, you should. And Spybot didn't get all of WildTangent for me either. SpySweeper found ALOT more! Here is a link I posted before I found out about the Viewpoint Media Player too:
»Wild Tangent in new AOL IM ver. 5.5

You can get SpySweeper for free trial, with 1 definitions update, for 30 days, try it out, you won't be disappointed!! I actually bought it, and like it very much. Its becoming one of the more prominent apps to have.
»www.webroot.com/wb/products/spys···ndex.php
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I had uninstalled Viewpoint from Add Remove Programs ... and Spybot got WildTangent. Do I still need to search the registry for entries related to these items?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9444540 Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:34:31 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9443571 TeMerc : Yes, thank you, I actually had done that, with Reg Seeker
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Remember............You can NEVER be OVERPROTECTED!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9443571 Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:05:09 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9442826 Dude111 : YES,

If you do decide to dump AIM totally,please go thru your registry and make sure ALL OF IT IS GONE!!!!!

Then use REG SEEKER and search for left over "VIEWPOINT" AND "WILD TANGENT" ENTRIES..Then do a full clean of your registry....

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9442826 Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:51:23 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9442655 TeMerc : Ok, heres the one part that's disturbing, tho, not surprising knowing AOLS penchant for aggressive ad-tactics...
"AOL however has decided to make SURE that if you remove it, they can put it back, thus the other bit of the "surprise" ..." :O
And that only rates a 2?!?!?!?! Geez, this guy is pretty lenient in my eyes.
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Remember............You can NEVER be OVERPROTECTED!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9442655 Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:34:28 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9442359 Dude111 : My sister has the latest version of AIM on the other computer..I tried to tell her how bad it is(Spyware,etc......) But she doesnt seem to care,i dunno.........Doesnt believe me or sumthing :(

Oh well,5.2.3277 rocks on!!!!!!

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9442359 Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:09:25 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9421219 Sparrow : This excerpt from an explanation by Kevin McAleavey should help explain WildTangent:
quote:
Greetings, and my apologies for both the delay AND the confusion there. Yes indeed, AOL's snappy new "Instant Messenger" does contain WildTangent - their "partnership" in popup advertising is part of their new "buddy games" "feature."

WildTangent is a "borderline" trojan - actually defined as "adware" and where we cut the mustard is a complicated legal thing that Nancy can explain better than I can. But legally, most of the WildTangent stuff is not "officially" a trojan except for the one part that BOClean brought down. On "Unca Kevin's 'scale-o-evil'", WildTangent rates a 2 out of 100 since it's a minor one - just that one module actually.

Kevin McAleavey Continued here... (scroll down)
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9421219 Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:53:20 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9420970 Dude111 : What about the registry entries for trillian????

Im trying to find a full DL of the latest TRIALLIAN PRO (2.01) anyone no where i an get it??????

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9420970 Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:29:56 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9420278 Ender3rd :
said by ToastGod S See Profile:
I use aim only because I hate setting up trillian over and over, and here at work it's easy to just use aim and be done with it.


I am not sure if you are aware of this, but you can actually zip your trillian directory up and put it on any machine. It will carry all your settings with it when you unzip it on another machine. Nice and clean!

Regards,

Ender]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9420278 Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:21:31 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9410628 Randy Bell : I think WildTangent is more closely "spyware" than the other .. but even in WT's case, you can uninstall that component without affecting functionality of the newest AIM 5.5 instant message client .. so, I guess I fail to see what's worth getting worked up about .. but I understand some are very sensitive to anything that doesn't first ask permission to be installed. I agree with the other comment, that freeware can be expected to have some "ad" type of support else it wouldn't remain freeware forever .. just look at jv16 Power Tools, for example, it used to be free .. but no more .. JMHO. ;-)
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"But now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love." (1 Cor. 13:13)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9410628 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:12:50 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9410567 Doctor Four : Not if I don't let it past my firewall. It isn't going to
phone home with anything if I deny it access through Sygate.
I can really see no reason to allow it access if the only
thing it serves as is a vehicle for unsolicited advertising.
If it does this without clear and informed consent (in the
EULA or in the company's privacy policy), then it most
certainly is spyware.
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As far as AOL being free, and not paying all these years, so what? The point is, when AOL decides, and its more likely they will, to install even MORE aggresive spyware, do you think they are gonna TELL YOU??? No, this is just one way to get a'foot in the proverbial door'. once they gain your trust, WHAMO! Next thing ya know, your getting specific emails/solicitations, designed at exactly what you 'just happen to be surfing'?
No thanks, I'll delete EVERY peice of what the fine folks over at Spybot S&D, AdAware,SpyWare Blaster,SpyWare Guard, IE SPYADS, WinPatrol say is or mite even be ad/mal/spyware.
And if theres ANYONE who can't be trusted, its those clowns over at AOHELL. But hey, thats just me. :D
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Remember............You can NEVER be OVERPROTECTED!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9410272 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:39:32 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9408667 Dude111 : I hate that!!!!!

Everytime i installed a new version of AIM,i have to UNINSTALL VIEWPOINT MEDIA PLAYER!!!!!!!

#1) What the hell is it?????

#2) Why is it installed?????

I dont install other versions of AIM,5.2.327 is my best friend :D

The Dude :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9408667 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:03:41 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9358592 Steely : Just trying to be objective for a moment, I look at it this way. Most of us have been using AIM now for what, maybe five years? Nobody I know has paid one penny for the software itself or access to the AIM network. The software is constantly updated and features added, many of them useful (file transfers come to mind). You can talk to whomever you want, whenever you want, for as long as you want. You can create as many screen name/identities as you want. As far as I know there's no limit to the amount of buddies you can have. Like you say, all of this is optional. But if you want to enjoy the benefits of this very robust free program, I think you have to expect to pay the piper on some level at some point. In the greater scheme of things, even just in the realm of computer/internet security, this is a relatively trivial matter in my opinion. If one decides AIM's tactics are too invasive or offensive, they can try an alternate IM program like Trillian, modify AIM, or choose not to use Instant Messaging at all.
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OOL Forum addict....and where the hell is our STATUS PAGE???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9358592 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:27:09 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9358370 Sparrow : Hi Steely See Profile

Let's just say we're a paranoid bunch here, and like to control our OS, rather than having progs download without at least asking for permission first. :)

The same problem exists with many programs. In the end, (and as it should be) it is the individual user's choice what to keep and what to dump. Personally, when I find a prog that has downloaded without any warning or input from me, I dump it and reconsider later. From my point of view, "Guilty before proven innocent."

Sometimes it is just a catch 22. Your call. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9358370 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:04:58 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9358235 Steely : OK, I just read the whole explanation here. Even with a "unique tracking number" it would seem they could only track info about the media content played with their software. If VMP only plays content dished out by AOL/AIM, what's the big deal if they collect data about how their own media content is used? Doesn't sound particularly sinister. I wouldn't think there's any way to personally identify me as an individual. Besides, isn't it easy enough to deny access with a basic free firewall like ZoneAlarm? I don't like the idea of automatic updates without permission, but I still don't understand what terrible thing Viewpoint does. Maybe I'm just naive.
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OOL Forum addict....and where the hell is our STATUS PAGE???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9358235 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:50:21 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357826 dadkins : "The software creates a unique tracking number ("Customer Unique Identifier" is their term). This number and other information is transmitted, without asking, to Viewpoint servers. The software downloads updates and installs them on the computer, also without asking."

Sound like spyware to me. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357826 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:07:19 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357765 Steely : Can someone please enlighten me: Is there any real security issue with ViewPoint Media Player or do people just resent it because it gets installed in somewhat sneaky fasion as part of AIM/AOL? My wife and kids like some of the AOL features so I keep the AOL software on board. I was under the impression that the VMP was the integral player within AOL used for certain media files. Is it dangerous? Is it spyware? Will AOL work properly w/o it? I'm confused.

BTW, with regard to AIM I use version 5.2.3277 in conjunction with the last free version of DeadAIM and get no ads or popups. What harm is VMP doing? Just curious.
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OOL Forum addict....and where the hell is our STATUS PAGE???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357765 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:02:24 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357273 Sparrow : re:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap\Domains\viewpoint.com

I don't have it in my registry anymore. Personally, I would delete it. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357273 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:19:54 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357193 TeMerc : Thank you Crystal, I did a search for both Viewpoint and WildTangent, and came up with same string, , regarding their respective websites, can these be deleted?

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap\Domains\viewpoint.com

Ditto for wildtangent. Thanks!!!;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9357193 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:12:24 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356409 Sparrow : I agree kpatz See Profile. I am not about to uninstall Mozilla, just Viewpoint. It may be installed through something as simple as viewing a news story that uses Viewpoint Media Player as its default.
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In that quiet listening, she will discover her true beauty and her deepest secrets will awaken.”]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356409 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:57:52 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356375 Sparrow : I would suggest you do a complete registry search for Viewpoint Media Player, as I mentioned, there were a number of other reg entries I deleted that I did not save. I grabbed the last few as hindsight during the deletion process. :)

For Windows XP:
Start > Run > type in regedit > Edit > Find > type in Viewpoint > click Find next.

In the right column of regedit, click on the values under "Name" to make sure it is Viewpoint Media Player, and not an entry with a similar name before deleting the entire key.

Continue clicking Find next until the screen says "Finished searching the registry."

If you find any entries, right click on the main key before it is deleted, and Copy key name to notepad, so others will know where to look as well.
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In that quiet listening, she will discover her true beauty and her deepest secrets will awaken.”]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356375 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:55:23 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356306 kpatz : I don't think it's Mozilla's fault... Viewpoint likely includes a Mozilla plugin that gets installed if it finds Mozilla on the machine. Flash Player does the same thing.

So there's no need to uninstall Mozilla, they aren't involved.

BTW, the Viewpoint player is used to play those annoying video ads in the AIM ad bar. Removing it is a good thing and AIM will still work without it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356306 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:47:43 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356268 dadkins : Mozilla too?!? Bye Bye Mozilla!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356268 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:43:50 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356192 Sparrow : I am glad you brought this up.

A couple of weeks ago, I found Viewpoint Media Player installed as well. I did not install it. At the request of some members of this forum, I installed AIM and Trillian, and removed both within a week.

However, I did save some of the reg entry names I found for Viewpoint Media Player prior to deletion:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{03F998B2-0E00-11D3-A498-00104B6EB52E}

Default: Viewpoint Media Player
Component ID: Viewpoint
IsInstalled: IsInstalled
Locale: EN
Version: 3,0,15,16

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{1B00725B-C455-4DE6-BFB6-AD540AD427CD}

Default: Viewpoint Media Player
Component ID: Viewpoint
IsInstalled: IsInstalled
Locale: EN
Version: 3,0,15,16

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@viewpoint.com/VMP

Description: Viewpoint Media Player for Mozilla
Product Name: Viewpoint Media Player
Vendor: Viewpoint Corporation

So now my question, is it coming from AOL and Mozilla?
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“Let the heart be quiet and hear out the mind.
In that quiet listening, she will discover her true beauty and her deepest secrets will awaken.”]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356192 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:33:42 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356063 ToastGod S : I use aim only because I hate setting up trillian over and over, and here at work it's easy to just use aim and be done with it.

Does anyone know Viewpoint's servers? I think they'll be added to my "Unfriendlies" rule in my firewall.

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9356063 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:19:39 EDT Re: AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9355950 dadkins : I haven't used AIM for a few (I use Trillian) but when I started AIM last night, I got the "Newer Version Available" nag screen.

After your thread last week and now this...Bye Bye AIM!

EDIT: ...and another thing, this AIM virus crap.... Screw this!

EDIT TWO: WTF is a "Program Group"?
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9355950 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:08:03 EDT AOL/WildTangent/ViewPoint Media Player http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9355764 TeMerc : Not to beat an old horse, which we all did last week, regarding a thread I started, after being blindsided by AOL IM, ver. 5.5 ,but here is some more info:

»www.dozleng.com/updates/index.ph···tid=2194]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9355764 Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:47:27 EDT