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Cheeze It9

join:2002-04-02
Denver, CO

Waste anybody

Anyone here heard of Waste ???

Also, I am an aspiring musician, and I could give a rats ass if my MP3's are "stolen" by people who don't wanna pay.

I'd give my music away for FREE...NO CHARGE....

Alot of bands would do this, but they are at a death-grip by the RIAA (although that is changing).

jimahrens

join:2002-05-30
Owego, NY

I would rather a person hear/read/see my work
Just because they cannot afford the printed/recorded/high priced *legal* version should not deny them that opportunity


dave
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reply to Cheeze It9
And it is your perfect right to give your work away for free.

However, it's also the perfect right of someone else to sell their work for $3,464.23 per CD if that's what they want to do. Your choice is limited to buy or not buy; 'steal' doesn't come into it.

Or rather, if you're going to steal, just do it and quit trying to come up with some rationale as to why you're not stealing. That's the most irritating part of all this fuss, really.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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reply to Cheeze It9

said by Cheeze It9:
Anyone here heard of Waste ???

Also, I am an aspiring musician, and I could give a rats ass if my MP3's are "stolen" by people who don't wanna pay.

I'd give my music away for FREE...NO CHARGE....

Alot of bands would do this, but they are at a death-grip by the RIAA (although that is changing).

Hey just for kicks if you got some of them in mp3 format ill give ya some high speed space you can use to put em up. Be pretty cool to spread the word for a service me and a couple friends were working on. PM me and ill give ya a way to get em here. be fun to see what the users here can do to our pipes.
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JoG

join:2002-08-07
Bluffton, SC

reply to dave
When you steal mp3's what do you get? Your not getting a cd which contains info about the artist or possibly lyrics, etc. And your not getting the sound quality.

In America you get what you pay for, if its free its not that great. The Laws of capitalism, which you have little crasp on, apply here to mp3's as well. If I really like an artist I will buy the cd, but not until I've d/led some of their music. Try and buy. Its pure Americanism. But communist retards like you don't get it.

Its been going on since the invention of the tape recorder. Oh maybe your too young to remember copying records to tape. Or the radio to tape for those desperate few.

Call it stealing, its good for the artist bad for the riaa. 98% of Artists don't make money from cd sales, its all about touring. Get a grip and get real!


runlevelfour

join:2002-06-12
USA

[QUOTE= JoG See ProfileIts pure Americanism. But communist retards like you don't get it. [/QUOTE]

You know JoG I agreed with you until you posted the "communist retards" comment. It would seem to me that you could do with some education regarding other political/economic models before attempting to blast someone with an insult based on one. The RIAA is the epitome of capitalism. The select few making an astronomical amount of cash from the labor of the many who see virtually nothing for their efforts.

Ever read a book called "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair? Or The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx? Until you have educated yourself on the subject I would not suggest you calling anyone a "communist" because it would seem you have no idea what communism or socialism really is.

When will people stop regurgitating the education fed to them by the Capitalist Education System?



SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

Maybe the communist remark was supposed to be a metaphor for how the RIAA acts like a governing body. Of course then the example would still be incorrect. What kind of "government" is the RIAA?

Socialist - This is what Russia actually was. Just with a healthy dose of strict rules. Lots of things were shared with the people so I don't see the big record labels really footing the bill here considering how much they take from just about everybody they do business with.

Imperialist - Let's see. They do have that "It's my way or the highway" kind of attitude that usually lingers in imperialism. Might be a match. Anybody want to give an analysis on this one?

Democracy - Hell no. The people have spoken and the RIAA is ignoring the cries. They are definitely not for by the people and for the people.

Dictatorship - One dude to rule them all. Might be a fit but there have been benevolent dictators who do not bleed the people dry for their own greed so I dunno.

Fascism - Hmm... a ruling body who says do what we say or suffer the consequences. A government that takes from it's people what they wish without concern and does everything to eradicate any ideal different than their own. Yup. I think we have a winner.


JoG

join:2002-08-07
Bluffton, SC

reply to runlevelfour
"The select few making an astronomical amount of cash from the labor of the many who see virtually nothing for their efforts."

If this statement doesn't epitomize communism nothing does.
Hell that statement so clearly defines life in communist russia I was shocked you tried to use it as your arguement. Yet you think this is an accurate description of capitalism? Your views are somewhat twisted. Take a Political Science class and dont sleep through it this time..


ccseifert

join:2001-06-25
Syracuse, NY

said by JoG:
"The select few making an astronomical amount of cash from the labor of the many who see virtually nothing for their efforts."

If this statement doesn't epitomize communism nothing does.
Hell that statement so clearly defines life in communist russia
Then nothing must epitomize communism. That statement epitomizes corruption of a government, or perhaps a plutocracy, but it's not an example of communism. And "communist russia" wasn't communist. Communism was merely a label used by the government to control the people while not applying it to themselves. In a truly Communist society, there is -no- state. It is only the people.

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said by JoG:
In America you get what you pay for, if its free its not that great. The Laws of capitalism, which you have little crasp on, apply here to mp3's as well. If I really like an artist I will buy the cd, but not until I've d/led some of their music. Try and buy. Its pure Americanism.
Look, if the artist (or whoever he has a contract with) wants to supply try-before-you-buy samples, he can do that. If the artist doesn't want to supply samples, he doesn't have to. You don't get the right to insist that he does.

quote:
But communist retards like you don't get it.
"Capitalism" is where the producer of the goods gets paid for those goods. "Communism" is where stuff gets distributed "to each according to his needs".

said by me:
Or rather, if you're going to steal, just do it and quit trying to come up with some rationale as to why you're not stealing. That's the most irritating part of all this fuss, really.
See what I mean?

JoG

join:2002-08-07
Bluffton, SC

"Look, if the artist (or whoever he has a contract with) wants to supply try-before-you-buy samples, he can do that. If the artist doesn't want to supply samples, he doesn't have to. You don't get the right to insist that he does."

Nobody buys music with out hearing it first. Its always been listen before you buy. You ever hear of the radio? So what major freakin difference does it make if I can choose when and where I check out a song before I buy the album?


dave
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join:2000-05-04
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The radio station operator gets to pay the copyright owner for the privilege of playing the work.



SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

Music is an art form, and like all art forms it will proliferate whether not the artist wants it to. An artist has no power to control all forms of distribution and they shouldn't. Otherwise you can be charged copyright infringement for singing someone's song on the subway.


JoG

join:2002-08-07
Bluffton, SC

reply to dave
A song always has to start being heard somewhere for free. A song never comes out instantly making cash. And artists are more than happy to let people listen to their music. How else would they get exposure? If your albums worth buying it will be bought.


dave
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reply to Cheeze It9
Sure. But it's up to the owner of the song to decide to give it away for free, not up to you to take it.


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