 Spike401Fox Powered
join:2002-04-27
Labrador | Same old story. My ISP does the same thing, 25 inbound and outbound blocked. When I first got it there were no such filters. I now have a friend using port 24 for me to send and recieve email.
Bottom line is that most ISP's do not care about the advanced user at all, since were the minority when compared to the average joeblow down the street. And those are the only people they care about, since they dont have a clue and will never have a need for such ports anyways.
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| I have a hosting account which offers smtp and pop access. Blocking port 25 would limit my use of the hosting account, which is not right.
My ISP's mail server is crap and slow. Because they use spam filtering I do not feel comfortable sending important mail through that account. Anyway, Adelphia users get bombed with spam. My hosting account does not get much spam at all.
If my ISP did start blocking port 25, I would need to get my own dedicated server and change the port assignment. Just to have reliable E-mail and reduced spam, I should not have to pay an extra $100-$200 per month.
It's my belief that I have a right to use the external mail services that I have paid for. Not only is it more reliable, but helps me to reduce spam. End users should be in control, not some corporation that uses profits as their only motivation. |
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 NevsterPremium
join:2002-04-06
Dalhousie, NB | reply to Spike401
You worked around the ISP's problem. That's pretty nifty.
You demonstrated for sure that you're an advanced user. With Friends even!
Did your ISP come after you for using port 24?
Is your life going on as planned?
Btw: Grouping yourself in with 'advanced users' and then saying your ISP is picking on 'advanced users' is still an attempt to make their arbitrary decision all about 'YOU', wouldn't you agree? |
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NevsterPremium
join:2002-04-06
Dalhousie, NB | reply to Anonymous Name
said by Anonymous Name:
I have a hosting account which offers smtp and pop access. Blocking port 25 would limit my use of the hosting account, which is not right.
It's my belief that I have a right to use the external mail services that I have paid for. Not only is it more reliable, but helps me to reduce spam. End users should be in control, not some corporation that uses profits as their only motivation.
Blocking port 25 would be unfortunate, but it's hard to say whether it would be right or wrong. From your writing, it appears that you're concerned about what hasn't happened yet. It might, but then when it became an actual problem, you might figure out an alternative.
You can believe in your rights all you wish. However, your beliefs and my beliefs do not come close to agreeing. That's OK. We have different points of view on the subject. I understand your point of view decently enough. I have a similar distrust in spam filtering, which is why I don't deploy it on our mailservers and leave the spam filtering to the customers.
My overall belief (or point of view) is that if I pay money for something and that something does not please me, then I have the right to stop paying for that something and get something else.
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So I pay money for my off-site hosting, and now I can't use it because every ISP in the world has blocked port 25 on their cable modems; perhaps I would ask my off-site hosting to open port 24 (gee, they might already because this port 25 thing is not a new problem!) for me.
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Spike401Fox Powered
join:2002-04-27
Labrador | reply to Spike401
Yes everything is back to normal. I got sick and tired of sending mail that just disappears into /dev/null or takes 2 weeks to get to its destination. Even worse when the weekly windows worm makes its debut. ISP's couldnt do a thing if your relaying your mail off a friends smtpd. Many people do have hosting providers that listen on another port to get around this cumbersome move that ISP's are forcing upon us users that actually dont use their trash of an email server.
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