 AD7BKPremium
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2 edits | I truely hope you all are happy I hope those who get it don't have the old 49 MHZ phones or have 49 MHZ walkie talkies, or have R/C toys, or pick up channels 2-5 off the air, or use CB radio or listen to shortwave because BPL is going to destroy it. I am very very disappointed in the FCC. Micheal Powell, Kathrine, and others at the FCC have been given a lot of money to say "OK" to it. (Sarcasm) Well Thanks a lot FCC you just destroyed the HF spectrum. And remember those who want BPL you will not be able to use any of the above. And when someone uses a CB or Ham radio it will interfere with your internet connection. And there is nothing you can do about it. You can complain but the FCC will say "it is a part 15 device we cannot help you." Part 15 devices must accept interference and must not cause interference to licensed services or part 95 services.
Sure they can NOTCH out the various bands but that will degrade the service.
I am sorry folks but BPL is a joke. No matter what you say not matter how you will hate Ham Operators, CB Radio users, and other users of the frequencies between 2mhz to 80 mhz BPL will have zero protection from anything that is in there. I can see a lot of the BPL users try to tear down peoples antennas because they cant get their mail or what ever.
If you get it and you have a CB-er or a Ham near you except it to drop.
It has been proven that 10 watts from a ham transmitter or as little as 4 watts from a CB radio can kill BPL. So I am waiting for when everyone gets it then complains to the FCC then watch it be dropped like a hot potato.
In my mind the FCC has been greased by the greedy corporations (Power and BPL Modem makers) so I have zero faith in the FCC for protection of the Licensed services.
We will see when there is a emergency and the Red Cross cannot use any HF or the military cannot communicate or ARES/RACES (Amateur radio for those who are clueless as to that org) cannot use the HF band for emergency communications because BPL noise wipes out the receivers of the hams trying to do whatever emergency. (flood fire anything they get involved in) Homeland security will too also suffer the effects of BPL
BPL is not a good IDEA unless they go up into the 5ghz frequencies or finds some way to use Spread Spectrum (Which will be a good way to completely eliminate interference)
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| It was a tough call, but that old tech has to be pushed aside for the new... The world will be IP based. Anyway I doubt this will be deployed nearly as wide as people seem to believe. And it will prob be slower than dsl ever was to deploy. |
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It was a tough call, but that old tech has to be pushed aside for the new... The world will be IP based.
Yeah, browsing porn and stealing music are more important than emergency communications... |
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said by Freezone:
It was a tough call, but that old tech has to be pushed aside for the new...
Yup, BPL is a failed legacy technology that certainly needs to be pushed aside by other better solutions including DSL (could be delivered to any phone in the country), cable, WiMax, WiFi, MMDS etc. |
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 Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
join:2003-01-31
Fullerton, CA | reply to AD7BK
said by AD7BK:
It has been proven that 10 watts from a ham transmitter or as little as 4 watts from a CB radio can kill BPL. So I am waiting for when everyone gets it then complains to the FCC then watch it be dropped like a hot potato.
Very good point.
I would add also that there are MANY CBers who use more than 4 Watts, and the majority of hams who operate on HF use more than 10 Watts. The potential for dropouts is incalculably high. Sure, BPL may be on the losing end of a Part 15 pissing contest, but hams and CBers aren't going to have any sympathy for them. The hams may be a bit more considerate, but I know from my dealings with CBers that they will operate as usual, and some will even up their power output from sheer spite. Even though power amplifiers are illegal on CB, CBers don't care; they will do what they feel is necessary to carry on their comms. I secretly root for them.
So the question: how long will it take for BPL customers to grow weary of dropped connections and bail out? Also, what will the utilities do when their income suddenly stops before they have at least broken even? My projection is that they will have to up their rates to pay back any investors. This may come as a shock to the BPL customers. The ones who bought in good faith (read:non ham-haters) have my sympathy. They are innocent victims...
Not so for the ham-haters. I will resist the impulse to laugh at the ones who baited and flamed the hams.
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| said by Radio Active:
I would add also that there are MANY CBers who use more than 4 Watts, and the majority of hams who operate on HF use more than 10 Watts. The potential for dropouts is incalculably high. Sure, BPL may be on the losing end of a Part 15 pissing contest, but hams and CBers aren't going to have any sympathy for them.
You know something, I'm thinking that we should set up "protest BPL" nets twice per day using DSB AM with as much power as possible, preferably during peak surfing times. When the BPL'ers start getting a whole lot of QRM, even dialup will probably seem more attractive and reliable than BPL. |
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Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
join:2003-01-31
Fullerton, CA | said by fifty nine:
You know something, I'm thinking that we should set up "protest BPL" nets twice per day using DSB AM with as much power as possible, preferably during peak surfing times. When the BPL'ers start getting a whole lot of QRM, even dialup will probably seem more attractive and reliable than BPL.
Too hard to type while using my "Golden Screwdriver"... Now which pot is it? Never mind; just turn them all up and hope for the best. Now I'm a real CBer.
Alas, but I am not licensed for 10 Meters yet.
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