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reply to schmattie
schmattie, yes, I was referring to the demarc. Computer specs have nothing to do with my speed (computer is plenty fast and properly configured...).

The 675 doesn't train up at 2000. It trains up at 1600/816 and therefore my actual download speed is 1.3Mbps. The line technician got the 2Mbps signal right at the demarc with his tester thingy, but a seemingly knowledgeable technician through tech support told me the line guy ignored packet loss and errors (he said he actually asked the guy about that when they were at his house).

It's highly likely that the constraints are line quality and distance from my CO. The Cisco's incoming line quality is 28db (people who are getting over 2Mbps speeds have line qualities of 40+db). If the Cisco really is clunky ass then the Lucent you suggest might pull through a little more speed, but I doubt it.

There's something that I've noticed with one of CBT's speed tests though, ie. »download.fuse.net .... When I run it the first time it'll read "kbps=1xxx" in the url bar where the x's are the rest of the speed.. it fluctuates (kind of slowish tonight though), but is generally between 1200-1400. When I run the test again (hit enter on the highlighted url to reload the site) it'll say "kbps=2000" up there. For example:

(keep mouse over to see full url at bottom)

»status.zoomtown.com/speedtest/me···bps=2000

When it's done:

»status.zoomtown.com/speedtest/re···corded=1

Bit odd if you ask me

Hello,

I got my upgrade last week. My Upload maxs out at 1.6M at BEST and upload is a steady 768. I have called zoomtown and they did the noraml, "check phone filters" ect ect. He said my 675 was training up at a good speed. I said WHAT? He told me they were in the process of moving to a new CO. When this was done it should increase the speed. It could consist of switching the twisted pairs. The guy accross the street, his is runing at 2.5 solid. He had some other phone problems a few weeks ago and I suspect they switched pairs to the new CO. They also said if I hook up the extra speed stream modem I had it would not train up. This is because it was not on the new system. I think I will put some preasure on them to switch me over to the new, and put a new modem in. I looked for the cisco utilties and could not find them. Can someone please post a link? What is the status of other zoomtown subscribers. I live in Indian Springs 45011 zip

My speeds are 2.3-2.5 steady, i live in the williamsburg area 45176......what cisco utilities are you looking for? Also I tried to use my commander software but I dont know the password. The thing is I never set one, so is there a default/generic password or is there another way I can see what my modems training at and other odd end stuff....

Thanks for the reply, I am looking for the Cisco Commandar utilites, or how to access the cisco 675 settings. I want to see what it is "training up" at. Your right I forgot about the password. I had to do that one other time with zoomtown tech support for another upgrade. I think it was something simple, like FUSE. I will look to see if I recorded it. This was set by zoomtown, not us... Are you useing the 675? I have seen alot of people get better speeds than me. Do you have any problems with zoomtown dropping the connection briefly?

Thanks!
dprice
dprice2@fuse.net

The only problems I have experienced are slow downs. They don't happen often and they usually only last a few minutes. As a matter of fact I haven't had one in quite some time. I've been running at 2.5 steady for a couple of weeks and my upload is always better than 768. BTW You can download the commander software here »www.qwest.com/dsl/customerservic···ups.html
when we ordered ZT (many moons ago) Cincinnati Bell gave me a cd along with my modem that has the commander software on it, I just don't know the password. It might be a smart idea to start a new topic, so maybe a few people will notice, there isn't many people on this board. All the people will try and help though, i would but me and you sort of have the same question.....heck I might start a new one lol!!!!
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also Cincy Bell made front page again... complete story »telephonyonline.com/ar/telecom_p···ndex.htm
this probably wont effect me but hopefully this will help some of you out that live far from the co.....

Yeah, I saw that news on the front page thecrock138 and replied to it. Like I said in the reply I think it's pretty unlikely they would deploy the powered DSLAM in an area like this. According to the words of a rando CBT tech support guy my speed (1.3Mbps) is "pretty good".

Who knows though. I'm sure there are some places near here that see even slower speeds than I do with the upgrade. I'm not expecting miracles though.

hopefully they get your area (1.3) is not bad but thats not close to 3 and if it possible to get 3 at 50,000 ft then they should deploy the technology, especially if they want to compete with Cinergy and Road Runner. I do have a question, I checked my 675 and I'm training at 3200 down and 952 up Line quality is 41db but my speeds are around 2.3-2.5, I know there is overhead but, i should be seeing faster speeds... any suggestions, thanks.

The download speed you're getting sounds right. When you're receiving actual packets the speed certainly isn't going to be as high as the trained speed (it's just a signal and not actual data throughput). Then when you're browsing and downloading from the net you have to take net traffic into account.

If I was getting the speeds you are I'd be very happy

hopefully soon enough you will be.......yeah I was just curious about that, i'm just spoiled. I had cable for a while and was getting over 3 on the download but playing games wasnt to fun, high ping and spikes that got me booted.. ZT keeps me in the 30's-40's all the time..Thanks for the quick reply

reply to legoman549
Your Cisco 675 routers password is: Cisco

You can verify the password by hooking up your management cable and retraining the unit. (unplug and plug) While the unit is booting give the unit the control break command by typing control + C in Hyperterminal. The password is encrypted but it will look like AGQAM. C -2 letters, I -2 letters, C -2 letters ect ect.

Ive been back and fourth with the ZT guys. The only thing they suggest is to have a line test. They said I am about 35db noise. I think I will do what DEATHK did and plug my cisco into the demarkification point to isolate internal wireing. I told them that the guy across the street was getting 2.4 and they said "just because it is across the street, does not mean it is closer" What a Bunch of BS! There is a junction point right there across the street! I also told them that I was getting disconnected often. This is especially true when d/l from newsgroups. It will last a while, but will eventually time out. He checked the cisco and said there was a timeout flag that was turned on. He changed it but I am still getting time outs. I have the newsreader to try up to 99 attempts before it times out. I also set it to send a "keep alive" signal every 30secs. Anyone else having problems with newsgroups? I think my patience will run thin and I will threaten to move to RR. Thanks!

The most common reason a connection will drop periodically is a tester is on your home phone line. Try training you modem (the cisco 675) @ the demarkation box outside. If it trains @ the proper speed then you probably have a line tester on your phone line have it removed.

Best of luck.

reply to DeathK
I also have a suggestion 4 U Death. I understand that you may have some packet loss from the Demark, however 2000-1600 (400 kbs) is way too significant. I would suggest running a home run line directly to the demark so you could bypass all of your homes internal phone line.

»status.zoomtown.com/speedtest/re···corded=1

I did that a while ago schmattie and it made absolutely no difference. I called up tech support and had the router plugged directly into the demarc, but was still getting the same speeds (I lose no speed or line quality through the house wiring). That was the call where the tech support guy told me exactly why I couldn't get a faster speed than I was getting.

Like I said before the 2Mbps was just a signal. It wasn't actual packets or throughput. The line technician ignored packet loss and errors.

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Well, I got my Commander software to work again (had to reinstall it). Now the router's only training up at 1280/816 and the line quality is 23db down from 28. When I do the speed tests directly to Zoomtown's network I get less than 900kbps. This is nearly unacceptable. The problem is that it's obviously been getting progressively worse over the past month or more. If this doesn't clear up they're going to get another call.

well i do have some good news for u deathk cincinnati bell is planing to offer 3mbits at upto 50,000 feet from co soon.

Yeah, well I'll believe it when I see it I saw the front page news a while ago concerning the 3Mbps at 50,000 feet and there's definately catches. They still have to run dedicated HDSL lines from the CO's to the "deployed" DSLAM's. This is going to cost them a good deal of money depending upon how many they deploy. They're also only likely going to put these powered DSLAM's in the fringes of their service area where people either can't get ADSL normally or get extremely slow speeds (much slower than mine). They'll only deploy them if the cost/benefit ratio is in their favor, ie. they get enough new people to get their service in the area of the deployed DSLAM that it pays for the thing.

I highly doubt they're going to run one anywhere near here.