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This is the funniest post of the whole ridiculous bunch.

OK, all those poor exploited Microsoft Workers who feel that Bill must go... raise your hands.

Or... How 'bout this... Anyone making more than you we'll get rid of.

On second thought, I'm with ya on this one. But only if we can do a beta test to see how well it will work....

...let's start with highest paid government employees!

It's people like you who make me sick. I spoke with a Dell executive who had the same smug remark as you ...however Dell is reducing the amount of outsourcing due to customer complaints. What’s so funny about it....outsourcing is supposed to save companies money because they pay lower wages........it destroys the United States Economy in the long run though.....Therefore the point being how do you justify displacing millions of American workers who are the lifeblood of the US economy vs the elite overpaid executives....they do not think twice about handing out pink slips to cut costs however then vote themselves a hefty pay raise.... example the American Airlines executive who had to step down because of pressure of the example I mentioned above. Once again You’re a jerk. I would not mind at all if we start with elected officials who don’t give a shit about anything but lining there own pockets. Yeah This is real funny stuff when your Fellow Americans are being impacted and you don’t give a shit.

First of all, I did not say it was funny, I said it was ridiculous.

Secondly, There are cheaters in all walks of life. Just because somebody is at the top of the food chain (as far as salary) does not mean they are evil or that we have the right to take from them.

Lets examine a few examples here.

You and I are forced (pretty much at the point of a gun) to contribute our hard earned money to a government mandated retirement system that is doomed to failure. It will never hold up. It will be in ruin before I retire, but I cannot opt out. These same people who forced it upon me have exempted themselves from participation. They have done us more harm than any CEO, yet you want to go after CEO's as of they were all child molesters.

What about Bill Gates? Personally I cannot stand the man because he is a snake oil salesman who creates and sells crap. On the other hand he has helped fuel one of the most robust economies the world has ever seen. He has directly created thousands of Jobs and indirectly created millions more. And as much as I hate to admit it, he donates heavily to charity.

What about Henry Ford? Created MILLIONS of jobs. Henry Ford basically created the middle class here in the US that our lovely government (with help from people like you) are trying so damn hard to destroy.

What about Michael Jordan? He was at the top of the pay scale by a long way. Find me 1 Chicago Bulls fan or teammate who thinks he was over paid.

Lets say I hire 2 programmers. One of them I pay $15,000 a year and the other $250,000 a year. The first one produces a few hundred lines of code and spends most of his time surfing porn. The second one works 14 hour days 6 days a week and builds the next Killer app that doubles the profitability of my company. Which one is over paid?

CEO's are not omnipotent. They answer to a board of directors. If they vote themselves a raise the board has to agree to it. Besides, even if that is not the case, it's their company! If they want to run the company into the ground that is their right. Companies are not here to serve you, they are here to make a profit. And along the way they might build some goods or services, create some jobs, and oh.. yes.. make a profit and maybe make somebody rich.

Congress can vote itself a raise, and there is nothing we can do about it. We can throw them out of office (after their term is done), but the very next guy voted in still gets the salary they decided to give themselves. And you think CEO's are ripping you off!

The Texas Rangers decided to pay one of their employees $25,000,000.00 a year for 10 years! It is their money, they can do what they want with it. They destroyed their company and drove off their clients. And you know what? That's their damn problem, not ours. It's their money. They created a product and sold it to us. We freely gave them the money. Unlike the government, they didn't hold a gun to our head, take our money, and promise to give services (services we may or may not want).

In your world idea people like Bill Gates, Henry Ford, Bill Boeing would be discouraged from taking risks and thinking big. In your world they would just become lawyers or live of Daddy's money and produce nothing. In your world we could live in Paradise where everyone is equal (much like North Korea, China or Cuba). In your world you would freely hand all the power to people like Castro and say, "please Mr. Castro, please take care of me like a loving father. Please Mr. Castro please take that money away from that rich capitalist so that I can have the fruits of his labor."

I've been promoted over people like you all my life, because I put out effort and apply myself while people like you just whine because somebody else has EARNED something you desire. If they have earned you must have earned it by just showing up!

I am not painting all executives as corrupt however you must admit (ENRON) most executives care only about themselves lining there own pockets while the average hard working person gets the shaft. ..the rich getting richer.....the richest people in the United states got a 43% tax cut over the last three decades were as everyone else has had a tax increase... the Social security fund you mentioned is being destroyed because we the majority are letting congress vote tax cuts and then to make up for them we deplete the ss surplus...that is insane.......I am all for capitalism however on a level playing field...The point I am trying to establish is why the honest hard working person should suffer ....What gives the top executive the impetus to layoff US workers for outsourced work...This Is Un American further by doing so they do not provide the workers here an opportunity to become top people. As far as the people like me comment...Yeah right I am a hard worker an overachiever at whatever I do. I just care about what’s going on in this country I was born here and I do care.... it sickens me that you do not seem fazed as your fellow Americans are losing there jobs. You really come off as a shallow individual...not a team player and the first to cry when the going gets tough for you... displacing blame on anyone you can. Again I am only sympathizing for the displaced US workers. Watch LOU DOBBS and please do become enlightened.

reply to scooby208

said by scooby208:

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...it destroys the United States Economy in the long run though...

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This is not a textbook...we are talking about peoples jobs being impacted. In a perfect world ...there is no such thing.......Greed is not good for mankind

I can not justify Americans losing there jobs....what have they done wrong. Corporate greed needs to stop...what if your job is impacted how are you gonna feel about it when you have a mortgage or rent and kids ......Not a good thing what this country is becoming...Did you read that guys quote From the WSJ article:
Wipro, which does the work for E-Loan, has been watching the furor from India. "We're very concerned about the angst that is there," says Sangita Singh, Wipro's chief marketing officer. "Our heart reaches out to the people getting affected with all the job losses."

The editors forgot to include the rest of the quote from Sangita Singh.

"But, there are winners, there are losers. We are glad to be on the winning side for a change." Singh continued, "Our hearts are jumping for joy. A dollar goes a lot further when everyone is hungry and willing to settle for less."

.................Should sicken you If you are a true american

reply to scooby208
As I stated, there are corrupt people in every profession. There are many working class people who rip of their employers every day.

The richest 10% of the people in this country pay 45% of the taxes. John Kennedy and Ronald Reagen both gave tax cuts to the rich and guess what? Total government revenue went UP!

There is no such thing as a SS surplus. That just means that the government took MORE of your money. It's not like if they work harder the SS fund will earn more, they just took more. The SS fund is partly in trouble because Congress robbed Peter to pay Paul, but that is not the main issue. SS is a pyramid scheme that was doomed to failure from the beginning. Remember now, the government is not taking our money and investing it for us, they are taking our money and giving it to current retirees (all the while they are exempt from this boondoggle). When SS was started there were 10 workers for every 1 retiree. Now it is 4 to 1. When we retire it will be closer to 1 to 1. For SS to work in the future 1/3 of a workers salary will need to go to SS. The government will just continue to raise the minimum retirement age until enough retirees are dying off so that the working man can pay for the rest. Sorry, I'd rather take my chances with Corporate America (even if it is Corporate India).

People are going to suffer someway somehow in any system. Do you really think the poor are better off in Cuba than here in the US? The US is the only country in the world where poor only have 1 TV. Where the poor have to rent instead of buy. The US is the only country in the world where the poor die of Obesity rather than malnutrition. Hunting down corporate heads just because they make a lot of money makes it worse for everybody, especially the poorest of the poor.

Sure, the Enron guys are bad guys and should be stripped of all their ill gotten wealth. But that is because they knowingly stole. If they just voted themselves raises, and the board knew, the stockholders knew, and the consumers knew, what's the big deal. We have the right to dump their stock, or not buy their product.

The way I see it, the government created the Enron problem. They spent all this time and money telling Joe investor to invest in companies like Enron, they would take care of us, they were watching the Enron guys like a hawk! And we the consumer behaved like Sheep and willingly handed over our money and asked them to make us a million. Well the government screwed up! They cannot be everywhere at once they cannot keep tabs on all criminal activity. The bad guys got through, we lost our money and the government is still telling us, it will never happen again, we're watching those guys really close now. It's like the gun control fallacy from the left. If I don't have a gun in my home and somebody breaks in forces me to watch as they rape and kill my wife the state will say, "sorry 'bout your wife, but we're gonna catch this guy". What good has it done for me? I'm more moral because I don't own a gun? The police cannot be everywhere at once. They cannot stop crime and neither can the government.

If the government would just stay out of business, business would have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were squeaky clean before we even gave them a penny. And after we gave them a penny we would hire our own private regulators to make sure they were not ripping us off. Companies would need to stay clean because one slip up, one bad apple, one bad CEO out of line we (the investor/consumer) would use the power of the market to put them all on the street.

I own a small non-regulated business, and I have to prove to my clients each and every day that I am not ripping them off or they will put me out of business. The government has told us that we are not being ripped off by Enron because they are on the job watching them. This is the true crime against the middle class, not a bunch of Enron thieves robbing us of our retirement.

reply to Combat Chuck
Overpaid?
Before the economy was deliberately tanked by the current dictatorship I made a reasonable 17 bucks an hour.
No im stuck working for chump change in a dead end no future call center job as an alternative to starvation.
So just how f*cking poor do I have to be to make you happy?

I am truly sorry to hear of your situation.....to the jackasses who still defend outsourcing I guess your jobs have not been impacted yet......when they are lets see if you truly believe the bullshit excuses you give to defend outsourcing American jobs.

I'm all ears (or eyes in this case).

What well thought out approach do you have to protecting US jobs?

(while keeping the rest of the world in the poor house)

There are no simple answers to your question of defending US jobs.........Is this type of change really good for the United States.......when eventualy all jobs will be impacted...The standard of living will be third world like.... As the article says there will be two classes of people....the very very rich and the very very poor.....Do you still want to defend what is happening to our jobs..... America wake up before it's to late.

Wired article

»www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/india.html

Shirley Turner represents the 15th District in the New Jersey State Senate

"We can't stop globalization," Turner says. But outsourcing, especially now, amounts to "contributing to our own demise." When jobs go overseas, governments lose income tax revenue - and that makes it even harder to assist those who need a hand. Losing IT jobs has particularly frightful consequences. In a jittery world, "it's really foolish for us to become so dependent on any foreign country for those kinds of jobs," she says. What's more, she continues, it imperils the US middle class. "If we keep going in this direction, we'll have just two classes in our society - the very, very rich and the very, very poor. We're going to look like some of the countries we're outsourcing to."

Her solution is simple: America first. Support American firms. Put Americans back to work. And only then, after we reach full employment, will outsourcing be an acceptable option. "If we can't take care of our own first, we shouldn't be looking to take care of other people around the world," she says. "If you're a parent, you don't take care of everybody on the block before you make sure your own children have their basic needs met."

I want to protect America. I want to protect jobs for Americans."

"But isn't part of this country's vitality its ability to make these kinds of changes?" I counter. "We've done it before - going from farm to factory, from factory to knowledge work, and from knowledge work to whatever's next."

She looks at me. Then she says, "I'd like to know where you go from knowledge."