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Vamp
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Re: Choppy VOIP?

Isn't the problem with VoIp the fact that ISP's still give crappy upstream speeds? and if connection is being heavily used (the upstream) then it will crap out??

just another reason why I think the upstream should be the same as the down, also that way you could have really high quality, high frame rate, and high res. video conferences (super web cams).

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digiblur
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said by Vamp:
Isn't the problem with VoIp the fact that ISP's still give crappy upstream speeds? and if connection is being heavily used (the upstream) then it will crap out??

just another reason why I think the upstream should be the same as the down, also that way you could have really high quality, high frame rate, and high res. video conferences (super web cams).


AFAIK, the highest Vonage codec is 90kbps and the Packet8 codec is somewhere around 32kbps. Packet8 is even usable on dialup.


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said by Vamp:
Isn't the problem with VoIp the fact that ISP's still give crappy upstream speeds? and if connection is being heavily used (the upstream) then it will crap out??

Yes and no...

Speaking from the Cable world, with DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0 you can separate the streams so you can tell them apart. So, if I'm PsyCable and I give you a cable modem & VoIP service, then I can give you 1 stream that has nothing to do with what your cable package speeds are and provide a better QoS for your VoIP streams. An average phone call with the G.711 codec at 20ms uses up about 100kpbs so if I'm in DOCSIS 1.1 world and I give you a cable modem package of 64/64 (not that it would ever happen) and give you VoIP access then you'll have 1 stream id that's specifically for VoIP and two for your modem..one upstream, one downstream. They will not interfere with each other even if you max both out.

But that's of course if PsyCable is your VoIP & high speed data provider.

If I'm PsyCable and you get Vonage, I will not separate these streams for you so if you're uploading a huge file and talking on the phone you will have problems.
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said by Vamp:
just another reason why I think the upstream should be the same as the down

I think someone should give me a machine that turns dirt into gold, but it turns out it's not that easy.

There's a reason providers don't provide symmetrical connections (unless you pay for them). The fact is that, at currents rates and standards, a symmetrical connection is not possible. If they could do it for regular cheap residential connections, don't you think they would do it?
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