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Cybertoad

join:2001-11-08
Houston, TX

reply to koitsu

Re: One qustion.

said by koitsu:
I'm _not_ on an RT and I'm 11900 feet from the CO, getting 1.5mbit down and 384kbit up (via Covad). My distance shows up as 10500 feet on an MLT test, and a little bit more on a pre-qual. And yes, when I say 1.5mbit down, I do mean pulling approximately 130KB/sec.

That kind of distance from a CO would be extremely
rare to push that kind of data rates. An RT at that
distance possibly but not likely from a CO.

If you are actually on a CO and your wire distance is
actually that far than you are doing very good. You
either have a very clean line or at least part of your
wire distance is actually fiber which doesn't count.

Given those numbers though, I'm more inclined to
believe that you are actually already on that
nearby RT you are trying to get switched to.

Don't count on pre-qual tests or even SBC to have
accurate information. They setup new RTs all the
time and most of the time, they don't bother to
update their network maps. Most of their distance
maps are still based upon the old "Project Pronto"
deployment locations that aren't being setup anymore.
This is a bit ironic since SBC is now the one doing
the RT deployment directly since the project is
no more.

In example, SBC lists my own connection officially
as somewhere close to 11,000 feet on their network
maps and pre-qual tests yet the RT I'm running off of
is physically only about 400 feet behind my house
and is so new that SBC isn't even aware it's there
officially. SBC thinks I'm running off of
another RT (an old pronto RT) that is roughly
about 2 miles away.

I get over maximum data rates at 6.1 Mbps and that
is even after any packet overhead. I also have
better test equipment than SBC and my equipment
also confirms that I'm indeed running off of the
RT by my house. SBC's network records are verifiable
a little bit out of date.

Point in fact, I wouldn't put too much faith in
the pre-qual and distance numbers that SBC gives you.

The good news is that if you are running at maximum
on your current 1.5 Mbps account at your current provider
taking into account overhead, I can just about guarantee
that you will do just as well with any account class at SBC.
(They're actually routed through the same equipment)

army5

join:2002-04-30
Oklahoma City, OK

It might be possible. I know that I am approx. 10,500ft and I am at 1.5. Of course the extra 1400ft could make a difference.
--
To fill the hour, that is true happiness - Ralph Waldo Emerson



koitsu
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
kudos:14

reply to Cybertoad
I'm 100% positive I'm NOT on the RT. My SNRs are absolutely horrible for 1.5/384 (something like 15dB / 9dB), which explains why I occasionally see some dropped packets to my uplink gateway. If I was on the RT, I'd have SNRs that would support 1.5/768, which is what I'd *REALLY* love to have.

I originally was sold 1.5/768, but the SNRs were so bad that I'd lose sync pretty often. I went through hell getting SE/Covad to drop me to 1.5/384, which they did and the line stablised.

In addition, after Covad did their MLT test, it was confirmed with SBC that there's a bridge tap on the copper between here and the CO somewhere. So, as far as "my line being excellent quality", I'm not so sure .

You can see an actual electrical run (this is what the MLT test also showed) of what goes where here. SBC should honestly be shot for this kind-of topology, especially since my side of the town is where all of the large companies are (Verisign, Veritas, Netscape/AOL, Microsoft, Pinnacle, etc.).
--
Making life hard for others since 1977.



trburns

@hstntx.swbell.ne

reply to Cybertoad
I work on DSL lines everyday and I would have to say that if you are under 12kft and you are NOT getting 1.2Megs then you have a line problem of some sort.


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