 Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1
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| Bit Torrent is a bit safer While you are not annoymous while using BiT Torrent, the moment you close the download window you are no longer sharing the file. Fast Track, E-donkey and Gnutella clients on the other hand will, by default, continue to share the file even after you have finished downloading it and closed the download window.
Currently the letters from the MIAA are informing you to delete the file in question. Comcast/Cox/whoever can't actually tell if you have deleted the file or not, they can only tell if you are no longer sharing the file. So while you'll still get letters by using BT, you can effectively ignore them as you will no longer be sharing the file by the time you get them.
Of course this offers no such protection against the RIAA, who will sue you right off the bat. It will also not protect you against the MIAA when they switch to that tactic as well (which will happen eventually).
So the bottom line is that unless you really know what you are doing you will get caught eventually. It's kind of like speeding except with a much larger fine.
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 BIGMIKEPremium
join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA | RIAA and several other companies feel that consumers don't deserve fair use, For me, P2P has been great. I abuse my CDs pretty badly, so it's nice when I get a horkin scratch, I can download whatever song has been compromised, and burn a new CD. As I understand it, I am entitled to the content of the CD when I purchase it, not the media itself. Otherwise, every time I scratch my CD, I would call up Sony and ask them for a new one... |
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It can't be safer! With Kazaa you can totally disable uploading, making you prone to MIAA! With bittorrent there isn't a client that has the option to disable upload, is there? :/
Why does anyone use Bittorrent anyways? It's too much of a hassle and it sucks for people under firewalls. I am trying suprnova, which I believe is the largest torrent site so far, and am finding their organization of movies a mess and the number of selections puny compared to other p2p networks. I really hate it because in a firewalled environment you would have to open up listening ports according the number of torrrents you download simultaneously in order to get maximum speed. Sucks for us wardrivers. |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| reply to BIGMIKE
The "fair use" law basically states you can back up media you purchase for your own use. This means that if you buy a CD, you can make a backup copy which only you can play.
Technically it does not allow you to download copies of songs you have CDs of though that is kind of a gray area. The person sharing the file is definately not protected by the "fair use" law.
Why not just make backup copies of your CDs when you buy them and store the originals in a safe place? That way if you scratch the copy you can just make a new backup copy from the original.
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| reply to Bittorrentsux
Yes Kazaa allows you to totally disable uploading but it is enabled by default and many new users of Kazaa don't realize that they are sharing everything they have downloaded (which happened to a lot of the people sued by the RIAA). Also disabling file sharing tends to get you blacklisted by file sharers and they will kill your downloads. Finally Kazaa tends to be unreliable as you never know what you're going to get when you download something since it has no CRC checking at all. This makes Kazaa a poor choice for downloading anything but the smallest of files.
The Edonkey network forces sharing of files you are downloading which is both good and bad. Good because downloads are much faster since there are more people sharing. Bad because you are now a target since you are sharing. Also unlike Bit Torrent, E2K continues to share the file by default after you finish downloading (see above).
BT is actually very useful for downloading popular files such as legal .iso files and video files. If someone wants to host a 100 MB file and 1000 people try to download it, instead of sucking up 1,000,000 MB (1 TB) worth of server bandwidth, it would use between 100-200 MB's worth so the server wouldn't go down.
suprnova is a public torrent server so anyone can put junk on it. More reliable servers are usually private.
As for the firewall problem. Many of the newer BT clients such as BitComet or BitSpirit, have added support for UPNP to automatically open up ports in routers. The ports Bit Torrent uses are well defined in any case (6881-6999 TCP) so its not hard to set it up.
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batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA | said by Morac:
Yes Kazaa allows you to totally disable uploading but it is enabled by default and many new users of Kazaa don't realize that they are sharing everything they have downloaded (which happened to a lot of the people sued by the RIAA). Also disabling file sharing tends to get you blacklisted by file sharers and they will kill your downloads. Finally Kazaa tends to be unreliable as you never know what you're going to get when you download something since it has no CRC checking at all. This makes Kazaa a poor choice for downloading anything but the smallest of files.
The Edonkey network forces sharing of files you are downloading which is both good and bad. Good because downloads are much faster since there are more people sharing. Bad because you are now a target since you are sharing. Also unlike Bit Torrent, E2K continues to share the file by default after you finish downloading (see above).
BT is actually very useful for downloading popular files such as legal .iso files and video files. If someone wants to host a 100 MB file and 1000 people try to download it, instead of sucking up 1,000,000 MB (1 TB) worth of server bandwidth, it would use between 100-200 MB's worth so the server wouldn't go down.
suprnova is a public torrent server so anyone can put junk on it. More reliable servers are usually private.
As for the firewall problem. Many of the newer BT clients such as BitComet or BitSpirit, have added support for UPNP to automatically open up ports in routers. The ports Bit Torrent uses are well defined in any case (6881-6999 TCP) so its not hard to set it up.
100mbx1000 is not 1tb!!!
I'm not going to correct you but you should figure it out on your own if your IQ is higher then 75  |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1 | So I was off by a factor of 10, sue me. If it's good enough for NASA it's good enough for me  |
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batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | said by Morac:
So I was off by a factor of 10, sue me. If it's good enough for NASA it's good enough for me
 really?! so 1=10, 100=1000???
btw 1+1=11. 2+2=22 THAT'S NEW MATH FOR YOU! |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| said by batmanst:
really?! so 1=10, 100=1000???
btw 1+1=11. 2+2=22 THAT'S NEW MATH FOR YOU!
No, I wrote 100mbx1000 was 1,000,000 MB (1TB) which as you pointed out is wrong. I was kind of responding and doing something else at the same time so added an extra 0 (extra power of 10).
Notice the in the sentence you quoted. It was a joke.
BTW 1+1 = 10, not 11. 2+2 is an error and everyone knows eleven times eleven is elenty-leven. 
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 Jetta392Premium
join:2002-07-14
Martinsville, NJ | reply to Bittorrentsux
said by Bittorrentsux:
It can't be safer! With Kazaa you can totally disable uploading, making you prone to MIAA! With bittorrent there isn't a client that has the option to disable upload, is there? :/
Why does anyone use Bittorrent anyways? It's too much of a hassle and it sucks for people under firewalls. I am trying suprnova, which I believe is the largest torrent site so far, and am finding their organization of movies a mess and the number of selections puny compared to other p2p networks. I really hate it because in a firewalled environment you would have to open up listening ports according the number of torrrents you download simultaneously in order to get maximum speed. Sucks for us wardrivers.
Two people said already to disable uploading. While this is a better way to avoid a file sharing letter from the RIAA, I have read that the RIAA will be looking at the downloading side as well. |
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