 myhoesMichael Extreme UserPremium
join:2003-10-05
Laval, QC | once great! just shows you NOTHING is secure and everything can be changed / extracted / modified
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| I don't even know why they even try to secure anything these days, its cracked a week later.If you can compile a program to secure something, someone else will always be able to undo that work. Just sell the frickin music cheaper and the pirating problem will disappear. 99 cents for a song, I don't think so. Now if we could only do something about those $1.50 and up ATM fees. |
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 KoolMoeAw ManPremium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD | I think .99 a song is perfectly fair and certainly within my 'budget'
But I completely agree that ATM fees are yet another bank scam. I really hate banks...almost as much as I hate CLECs... 
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 djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:1 | reply to myhoes
Why bother trying and encrypt it in the first place when you can "Decrypt" it by burning an audio CD?
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Why do people get so upset about paying for the convenience of getting cash at the bar when they didn't get around to stopping at the Bank? You'll happily pay $1.79 a gallon for gas with half in taxes, but God forbid the buck and a half! |
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 pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | reply to KoolMoe
[OT]Re: once great! said by KoolMoe:
But I completely agree that ATM fees are yet another bank scam.
I have an ATM/Visa card that uses the Shazam network from my Credit Union. NO FEES FOR THE CARD!! »www.comchoicecu.org/
There is a bank in town that uses the Privileged Status network. NO $1.50 FEE!!
»www.esbanks.com/port_winterset.htm
»www.shazam.net/privileged.htm
Wells Fargo and other big banks shot down the law that prohibited the $1.50 fee and Shazam thought this thing up.
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pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
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Winterset, IA | reply to nedlohs
Re: once great! said by nedlohs:
Why do people get so upset about paying for the convenience of getting cash at the bar when they didn't get around to stopping at the Bank? You'll happily pay $1.79 a gallon for gas with half in taxes, but God forbid the buck and a half!
I can consume about two gallons of chocolate milk in the time that my 4-banger consumes a gallon of gasoline.
And the nearest chocolate milk is $2.75 a gallon last time I checked.
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 technickPremium
join:2000-12-16
Wheat Ridge, CO
kudos:1 | reply to djrobx
why waste a cd just to convert the file? |
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KoolMoeAw ManPremium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD | reply to nedlohs
Because it's MY MONEY. I give the bank MY MONEY for safe keeping and a little (LITTLE) interest. In return, they get to use my money for their investments, which I guarantee makes a LOT more money for them than they are returning to me in interest.
To charge me a fee to take MY MONEY out of the bank is offensive. Banks are a necessary evil, unfortunately.
KM
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| Did you ever think that the bank has to pay a fee for ATM use? Who do you think really owns the ATM... the bank, or a corporation called TYME, PULSE, or something else of that nature? |
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 RexterYeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
cloud 9 | reply to CSULA
I disagree, I think that $.99 is a perfectly acceptable price for a song. However If when I have a the choice between a song that hastes and restricts my usage with DRM, or a .mp3 file that I can listen to as I choose. Well the answer is obvious. It's not about the price to me, it's about freedom. Stop trying to sale me inconvenience, and I'll buy your product. |
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 JulioBachatero y Que?Premium
join:2003-03-19
Brooklyn, NY
kudos:1 | reply to technick
ever heard of a thing called a CD-RW?? you know it is that CD that you can burn, erase, and burn again??
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pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | reply to myrr_allinc
said by myrr_allinc:
Did you ever think that the bank has to pay a fee for ATM use? Who do you think really owns the ATM... the bank, or a corporation called TYME, PULSE, or something else of that nature?
Let's say 2 banks both offer no-fee ATMs if you use the cards that one of them issue. Now, prospective and existing customers flock to use the fee-free ATMs of each other. Instead of collecting fees from the other bank, the banks are effectively 'cancelling' out each other's fees. Now there is certainly the possibility that one bank will be used more, but there are more than two that offer it and the program is entirely voluntary for the financial institutions that use the Shazam ATM network.
Financial institution customers that use the Shazam network but are not part of the Privileged Status do not get the right to use fee-free service. They must pay $1.50 or whatever the ATM wants to charge (legal limit?). This may upset customers so it may help 'persuade' their respective financial institution to Join In™.
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If you were banking in the early seventies, when the first ATMs were put into service, you will recall that the ATM was introduced as a money SAVING measure.
ATMs were supposed to be cheaper than tellers, and much cheaper than branch banks.
So why do ATMs cost money to use, when the branch bank and the teller are free? |
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pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
1 edit | said by De Badd Ass:
If you were banking in the early seventies, when the first ATMs were put into service, you will recall that the ATM was introduced as a money SAVING measure.
It increases the bottom line of Citibank, Wells Fargo and Bank of India. They sure didn't want you to benefit from it silly.:p
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | reply to CSULA
said by CSULA:
Now if we could only do something about those $1.50 and up ATM fees.
There is, you doofus. Go to your own bank's ATM.
Cheapskate.
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KoolMoeAw ManPremium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD | but that's not conveeeeeeenient, ya know!
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