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urankjj

join:2004-05-31
Forest Falls, CA
reply to Link Logger
Re: FTC Spyware Workshop: 1st Impressions

spyware on my pc is certanly the begining of the end of my on-line purchasing, you can `count^ on it.


Link Logger
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join:2001-03-29
Calgary, AB
·Shaw

reply to SnowyOne
I don't think its possible to regulate this industry, how would you enforce it, so anything that comes out of this is certainly a step in the right direction, be it likely a very small step, but a step never the less and likely a short lived step as adware, spyware, etc have competition as well and if the competition ignores the rules then its likely everything is back to free for all mode, or some companies go out of business and then everything is back to free for all mode so there is really no escaping this continuing adventure.

Blake
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SnowyOne
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reply to B
There isn't any panacea.
But getting together a bunch of S**Ware Advocates to at least define what is not acceptable to even THEM gives a solid baseline for further discussion.
The whole idea is you gotta learn to crawl before you walk & learn to walk before you run.
I'd rather see delayed well thought out regulations than knee-jerk reactions that are either unenforceable or won't survive a contested lawsuit.
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Dave said "By the way, 4294967295 is just another way to write -1".

B
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said by Link Logger See Profile:
operation offshore (a lot of it already has moved) to where people think FTC is the name of a boy band or something.
And the girls love the hit single 2Cool2Spy4U.

I Googled Swindle a bit (not that there's anything wrong with that) and found an interesting set of quotes at »zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-956708.html:

quote:
Why would someone who is breaking the law pay any attention to the law? It's so difficult to catch 'em. You just wonder what the effect would be. Good people who obey laws probably don't send out a whole lot of spam. Bad people who like to rip people off probably won't pay a lot of attention to the law, since they'll do it anyway.[...]You're going to hear the First Amendment argument, "I have a right to market." They're going to continue to do this until they're taught that it's destructive, that it's harmful. That's one of the principles of the OECD guidelines that talks about democracy and ethics. Be aware that you can hurt other people.
He's talking about spam here, but how, exactly, are spyware companies more trustworthy? Can you believe this is the same person talking as the one Eric described above regarding spyware "self-regulation"? Does this man have ANY idea of the scum he's dealing with?

-- B


Link Logger
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said by eburger68 See Profile:
The FTC is much more interested in encouraging what it calls "industry self-regulation," which involves the advertising industry itself establishing a set of "best practices" that would allow it to "play nice" with consumers.
Is this guy on glue or something??? What motivation does this industry have for any form of self-regulation, best practices or to play nice with consumers and why hasn't this motivation already self-regulated the industry? Next question, who exactly does the FTC think they are and I think this is the point they realize in that there really isn't anything they can do to regulate this cr@p, as the internet doesn't understand borders, so its easy to move this sort of operation offshore (a lot of it already has moved) to where people think FTC is the name of a boy band or something.

I fully wish and dream about the day when some of this junk goes buh-bye, but its too easy and the money is too good, so it won't ever go away, and it is slowly killing the internet IMHO (I'm talking about more then just adware, spyware etc, but the whole concept of the internet as nothing more then a huge scam marketing tool).

Blake
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