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keyboard5684

join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
reply to Qumahlin
Re: Ugh...

Verizon does that, it is pretty transparent though.

Still, something many do not know....

ParanoiaInc

join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA

reply to pnh102
Mindspring was blocking port 25 back in 1996 when I worked for them. This is not new at all. There shouldn't be a legit reason to be sending mail using your ISP's dmain mail server while not using your ISP's domain.

And the problem isn't as simple as stupid users not securing their accounts/computers, but that Spammers signup for accounts and then use accounts elsewhere to relay through the unfortunate ISP's SMTP. This is an old trick that no mature ISP would allow the convenience of port 25 being open in the first place.

ParanoiaInc

join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA

reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 See Profile:
said by Rob See Profile:
I don't see Comcast making any improvements to help lower the number of spammers on their network -- making them the #1 ISP with the most spam users.

But at least Comcast isn't blocking port 25 (yet). I don't see why I should have my network connection hobbled because of idiots who refuse to secure their machines. I would fully support any ISP that yanks connectivity from lusers who refuse to use firewalls and/or patch their operating systems.

Which IS the problem! Until Comcast blocks port 25 to keep 'certain' customers from using Comcast SMTP servers for inappropriate activities, the problem will continue.


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall See Profile:
said by Rob See Profile:
said by pnh102 See Profile:
Its too bad the money to be made off of stupid users who refuse to secure their machines is more important to BellSouth than the responsible users who do secure their machines.

I don't see Comcast making any improvements to help lower the number of spammers on their network -- making them the #1 ISP with the most spam users.

I don't think that is totally correct.

According to my router logs, I get more spam and zombie attacks from a few other DSL and cable providers. Comcast IPs rank in the middle on my router attacks. The most, believe it or not, is Charter and SBC.

Well, lemme look at my (SMTP) logs. From the last four days:
    Relay access denied (total: 273960)
14187 comcast.net
6137 shawcable.net
4942 attbi.com
3881 greatosee.com
3126 rr.com

blocked using dynablock.njabl.org (total: 263297)
46633 comcast.net
12876 optonline.net
12746 rr.com
10236 attbi.com
9189 ameritech.net

Not only is Comcast the biggest offender in two block categories, they are the biggest by a considerable margin. Comcast seriously needs to do something about their networks.

-tom

--
"There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't."
"That's only 2 types of people, moron"

berniep3

join:2004-06-29
Boca Raton, FL

reply to Rob
the port 25 blocking is for all bellsouth customers but the ones interested in upgrading their services to business
it is only a money broblem hidden behind a security BS.
if you know any petition or class action law suit I will be glad to join!

weedahoe

join:2003-09-14
Duluth, GA
good luck with a class action suit because you agreed with the ToS when signing up for the service. you know, the part where you are to use your own exchange server, email server and things of the like??

fantomposter
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join:2002-09-21
Independence, OH

reply to ParanoiaInc
said by ParanoiaInc See Profile:
There shouldn't be a legit reason to be sending mail using your ISP's dmain mail server while not using your ISP's domain.

Large attachemnts. The IPS's are way behind the times on file size and limits. Other than that you are corrrect
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