 DonnaBPremium
join:2003-05-07
malaysia | Microsoft Allows Pirates to Install XP SP2 "On the tail of the previously asked question on whether Microsoft should support pirated copies of XP, comes the answer. According to Computer Times, Microsoft will allow SP2 to be installed on any copy of Windows XP including copies with invalid license keys. Microsoft decided "that even if someone has pirated copy of Windows, it is more important to keep him safe than it is to be concerned about the revenue issue." There is no news of whether or not pirated copies will be allowed access to the Windows Update site afterwards or just allowed to install SP2."
»slashdot.org/articles/04/05/09/1···&tid=201
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | Already front-page news  |
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BPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | reply to DonnaB
Great! Microsoft has done the right thing.
See guys, even THEY think it's petty to withhold patches to compromisable systems! They have, de facto, agreed with the reasoning of us in the minority opinion around here. Good for them.
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 keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB | reply to DonnaB
It is only wrong to give away or take away other people's property when you don't have their voluntary permission.
Living in highly taxed liberal Canada, I'm always amazed at how generous some folks are with other folks' money. 
It is Microsoft's property to give away if they want. It is a good charitable act.
Should Microsoft be allowed to claim their charitable donation (to knowing warez users, and to victims of felonious computer retailers) as a charitable donation for tax purposes?
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SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | said by keith2468:
Should Microsoft be allowed to claim their charitable donation (to knowing warez users, and to victims of felonious computer retailers) as a charitable donation for tax purposes?
No, but they don't need to.
You can't take a charitable deduction for anything unless it involves an actual expense (say, writing a check to your charity), but since all the costs of providing these services -- to pirates and the decent folks alike - are completely legitimate business expenses, they're deductible on that basis anyway.
Steve
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 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:1 | reply to DonnaB
said by DonnaB:
Microsoft decided "that even if someone has pirated copy of Windows, it is more important to keep him safe than it is to be concerned about the revenue issue."
That's one of the most intelligent, and realistic, things Microsoft has said or done in a long time. People will pirate software and stopping that is a *different* issue. In the meantime, those pirated copies, if they're left insecure, help NO ONE. |
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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-03
Reston, VA | reply to DonnaB
Oh, guys! We're not gonna do this all over again, are we? 
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I can see and agree with both sides of the should MS patch pirated system argument. I'm glad they're doing this though.
Now how to get people to take advantage of their change in policy (at least in this one instance) and actually install the service pack. |
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 TheJokerPremium,VIP,MVM
join:2001-04-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:5 | reply to DonnaB
Its also at »computertimes.asia1.com.sg/news/···,00.html, although the link wasn't working earlier.
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 ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA | reply to jvmorris
said by jvmorris:
Oh, guys! We're not gonna do this all over again, are we?
yes we are, prepare for another 18 pages or so |
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BPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 |
Probably not -- you know how the newspapers go... "Animal show host Jack Hannah charged with lascivious fondling of elk" gets Page 1 headlines, but "Oops it was all a mistake" gets mentioned on Page 63.
I wanted to be on record as cheering MS on their decision (assuming this is an accurate report of course).
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KiwiPremium
join:2003-05-26
USA/MidWest
kudos:1 Reviews:
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It's pretty simple, really. When someone attempts to access IE, shut it down if it's not legit! How? Well heck, if anyone does not think MS is not capable of shutting off pirated XP's ~Then who's the moron MS? Er, it's net based these days, folks!
How many scripts does it take to verify a legal copy, while using the OS, I would think MS really does not care!
On the downside, as a legit user of 3.0, 3.11,'98/2k Pro & XP - How many $$$ does it take to satisfy a vulture ~Anyone bothered to add up how much you paid, over the years -For the 4th wheel on that software wagon?
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 MarillaI Am My Own ArbiterPremium
join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH | reply to DonnaB
I would have fully supported Microsoft had they decided to continue not to allow people to update pirated copies of Windows XP.
That said, I think the Internet will in general be a marginally better place with this decision on their part, and I tip my hat to them for it.
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vic102482Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD Reviews:
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2 edits | reply to DonnaB
said by DonnaB:
According to Computer Times, Microsoft will allow SP2 to be installed on any copy of Windows XP including copies with invalid license keys. Microsoft decided "that even if someone has pirated copy of Windows, it is more important to keep him safe than it is to be concerned about the revenue issue.
A step in the right direction.
Im glad they realized their silly mistake and corrected it. Pirated unsecure copies hurt the internet as a whole.:(
Now if they can answer the question of windows update....
I still like the idea of reverting the OS back to its trial period. That is much more feasable IMo. Horray for M$.
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SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | said by vic102482:
Pirated unsecure copies hurt the internet as a whole.:(
but updating pirates reduces the value of ownership. Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free?
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 PhoenixAZGet A MacPremium
join:2004-01-04
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:1 | said by Steve:
said by vic102482:
Pirated unsecure copies hurt the internet as a whole.:(
but updating pirates reduces the value of ownership. Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free?
So you can have the cow and the milk
Anyways, I think they should update the pirates this once, because do you want the viruses and worms to spread about? |
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keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB
2 edits | reply to DonnaB
If you buy the cow then you have to feed it every day, milk it every day (even if you don't want milk that day), plus there are vet bills, cleaning the barn, they smell, etc., etc.
It is much cheaper just to take the free milk.
And if the farmer wants to give away the milk, that is very generous of him, we should take the milk, and we should all be grateful and stop thinking of him as a greedy little geek.
But I don't think that will happen. 
People don't generally value so much what comes easily or for free.
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 javaManThe Dude abides.Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA | reply to DonnaB
First BMW metaphors and now cows & milk. I guess it will be another 18 pages. |
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ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA | reply to PhoenixAZ
said by PhoenixAZ:
said by Steve:
said by vic102482:
Pirated unsecure copies hurt the internet as a whole.:(
but updating pirates reduces the value of ownership. Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free?
So you can have the cow and the milk
Anyways, I think they should update the pirates this once, because do you want the viruses and worms to spread about?
Microsoft knows that allot of people that use pirated software are running corporal edition that don't require activation. They also know that allot of people blaming them for people not applying the patch and also that pirated software helps spread the viruses/Trojan etc. By letting those that pirated software to download the sp2 they will look like they are trying to fight viruses/ Trojan creators |
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 redxiiPremium,Mod
join:2001-02-26
Sherwood, MI | reply to DonnaB
The problem now is getting those who haven't got and never heard of SP1 or WindowsUpdates to install SP2. |
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