JohnE
join:2002-04-28
| FTTP splice work has begun in NJ
I just noticed a new phase in the FTTP install today.
Junction/splice box installation.
Pic1…...Conduit + fiber loop. / Pic2...Just noticed today what looks like a junction/splice box where the fiber loop was. One per utility pole. / Pic3…... The installer and his vehicle. (This truck is not parked on a hill. Poor camera handling skills on my part.) |
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ggoose_69
join:2003-12-23
Everett, WA | Is pic 3 what the new fibre trucks look like ? I have seen multi of them in my hood now the last 3-4 weeks. |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28
| Just a heavy duty box van with airconditioning and tinted windows in the cargo/work area .Not the fancy trailer rig that I have seen posted in past threads. lol:)
As for "seen many of them" ....have a look up on the utility poles to see if you have similar equipment being installed like in pic 1 and 2. |
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ggoose_69
join:2003-12-23
Everett, WA
| Thats the funny part of my hood, we have above ground power and above ground cable, but the phone lines are all under ground, when ever I see these vans they are always at man hole covers, dam strange if you ask me to put it underground when the rest of the utilities are on poles. I ask some workers about it 4-5 weeks ago when they were pulling bright orange cable into the man hole, they said you this is Fibre, we just inst the main runs, we do not run it down the street to your house, there will be another crew coming behind us in about 4 weeks to hook up and test all the fibre we run and I guess hook it to your house. He was a VZ worker, but did not seem to know much other then the fact they were running the feeder lines through my whole hood. |
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chex383
join:2003-03-13
Montreal, QC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Comcast
| Wow. thats crazy. Do keep us aprised of how the installation and setup goes. Where are the verizon.net pages on this test-service??
Chex
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tonyfer2
join:2002-08-14
Elizabeth, NJ
clubs:  | what part of nj? .........nj big lol |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28 | "what part of nj? .........nj big lol"
Northern Bergen County...Out of the Closter CO
How bout you ggoose_69 ? Where is your install taking place? |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ | That coil of cable is still hanging at the end of my street... just like it was a couple months ago when you brought this topic up. I'll keep a lookout to see if it changes in the next coule weeks. |
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ooluser
@optonline.net | reply to JohnE
Awesome! I'm in Bergen County myself, hopefully Verizon will start rolling it out in my town soon. Right now OOL is fine, but Fiber is a lot cooler and better! |
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Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA
2 edits |  reply to JohnE
In spite of Broadband Report's well-founded skepticism, I think they will be pleasantly surprized later this year to find out that Verizon is indeed serious about this Fiber to the Premises roll-out. I know from very reliable sources that Verizon is currently aggressively building the outside plant fiber infrastructure and installing the specialized associated equipment required for FTTP in central offices in a select number of towns on the East Coast. Communities that have primarily arial (as opposed to buried) wire plants are being favored for the first installs. The idea is to have the service available to all town subscribers (not necessarily installed) by the end of the year. At this time if anyone in the town wants the service they can pay to have a fiber drop line installed from the serving pole to their home and a required fiber NID installed on the side of their house. Power will come from the home owner's AC system and a back-up battery will be in the NID that will keep the service running for ca. 8 hours in the event of a power failure. Verizon is planning to have many more towns equipped by the end of next year. Conventional copper service will continue in these towns uninterrupted for those who do not want to pay to have fiber installed to their homes. No one yet knows what the install and monthly charges will be for the new fiber services. I imagine, however, it will follow the pattern of DSL: it may be high in the beginning and will then come down significantly when Verizon discovers that people will only order the service when costs are "reasonable."
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Zidewinder
join:2003-10-27
Sarasota, FL
| reply to JohnE
Sweet!!! I saw a truck a lot like that in my town (Sarasota, FL) about three days ago! I thought it might be a fiber splicing rig, because I'd heard that they do it in a mobile lab. The truck was parked at a street corner, and two cables were running up out of a manhole through a little hole in the back of the truck. I got a few pics on a disposable camera, I'll post em when I get it developed.  |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28
| reply to Alex G Bell
"No one yet knows what the install and monthly charges will be for the new fiber services. I imagine, however, it will follow the pattern of DSL: it may be high in the beginning and will then come down significantly when Verizon discovers that people will only order the service when costs are "reasonable."
Verizon will have to compete with ool with price and preformance in my area.Even though FTTP can outpreform ool in every way,there is a chance Verizon could get stingy with thier internet speeds. Lets hope not |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| I haven't seen any Verizon trucks around here in a while. There was a truck on New Bridge Road in Bergenfield on Friday doing some work, but it didn't say Verizon on it and it was beige in color... wires are above ground, but this work was happening in a manhole.
The wire at the end of my street and on Piermont Road haven't been touched.
I think Verizon will compete with OOL right off the top. I honestly think they will give us faster speed for the same price with free installation after you sign a one or two-year contract and pay for the hardware that connects to your computer.... which is how Cablevision used to manage OOL... when I signed up, I got the installation kit, modem, CAT5, RG6, etc for $99 and I had to install it myself... had I not signed a contract, the modem would have cost me a lot more. So they will probably do something like that to lure people in... because if the start up costs too much money, people are not going to buy it.
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28
| said by Jmartz said:
I haven't seen any Verizon trucks around here in a while.
Did not see many in the Demarest Closter area either except for the splice truck. The line trucks I did see seem to be heading towards Noorwood/Northvale area.I just noticed residential fttp line work in those areas the past week.Not to say they havn't been there longer.It"s just my job does not take me on many backroads in those towns to often. |
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ooluser
@optonline.net
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It would be nice to see 10mbps/10mbps bandwidth at prices that match OOL's $44.95/month. That would be awesome, or perhaps 20mbps/20mbps! I know personally I don't need that bandwidth, but I'm thinking of the future, it shouldn't take long for applications to be able to use the bandwidth. I really believe Verizon is a great company. Phone service has been rock solid for over 10 years, without a single outage. I'm not saying there hasn't been an outage, but I never noticed it and I used this line constantly for the internet before I got OOL. Verizon's cell phone coverage is excellent, atleast in my area. I never lost signal yet since switching to Verizon, non-stop coverage from Washington DC, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, New York. It's pritty awesome. Now DSL, being that I'm 13,000-17,000 ft from the CO the DSL service is horrible, but FTTP is my dream. Verizon rocks, best telekom company in the USA. They're expensive, but I use high-tech services constantly, it's my life, so I don't mind paying them to provide me with excellent service. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to JohnE
I cant wait, I hope that 5, 15, and 30mbps service they plan to offer will be symmetrical! Me want
edit: wow I just noticed that there are 2 of those that just got put on the pole across the street from me within the past month or 2 .. they wernt there before, dont know if it's fiber or not but it appears to be. |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28
1 edit | reply to JohnE
said by Jmartz:
I think Verizon will compete with OOL right off the top. I honestly think they will give us faster speed for the same price with free installation after you sign a one or two-year contract and pay for the hardware that connects to your computer.... which is how Cablevision used to manage OOL..
said by ooluser:
It would be nice to see 10mbps/10mbps bandwidth at prices that match OOL's $44.95/month. That would be awesome, or perhaps 20mbps/20mbps!
I am not as optimistic about price and speed for a new service.When a new product or service comes to market(new to a local area) the price starts out high.I dont see Vz breaking this pattern .The first group who have it installed will get slammed with high equipment costs... |
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ooluser
@optonline.net
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If they can offer me a 10/10 mbit line I'll pay for it, as long as I can use the bandwidth some-what. Meaning none of that BS OOL pull's. If we can't use the full bandwidth, then atleast set a bandwidth limit. If it's fair, i'll buy into it. If it's like 20 GB/month then what's the point of 10/10 or 20/20? But since this is going to be a major overhaul of the network, I predict bandwidth will become majorly cheap. What we consider $50 of bandwidth per month today will be a lot different in the coming years. If Verizon installs all these fiber lines to every home, and if the other telco's follow suit we'll have the entire country on fiber. All that dark fiber in the ground that isn't being used will be lit, and bandwidth will be as cheap as water. This is what I am hoping for, and I believe we are finally going to see this. It's not going to happen overnight, but it'll happen. Fast connections to home = More fiber backbones, Better Tech = Lower Prices. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| reply to Alex G Bell
said by Alex G Bell  :
In spite of Broadband Report's well-founded skepticism, I think they will be pleasantly surprized later this year to find out that Verizon is indeed serious about this Fiber to the Premises roll-out. ...
Tell that to the people of Pennsylvania. Even after giving them billion$$$ for fiber, they got nothing. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | reply to JohnE
So will this fiber be converted to Ethernet on the outside terminal box? |
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