doppler
join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY | Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America. | |
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72276539
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join:2001-01-19
Atlanta, GA
| Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl said by doppler  :
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America.
Then move to Korea.
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Smitedogg
Uzbekikitty
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join:2000-11-11
Pueblo, CO
| Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl said by 72276539 :
said by doppler :
Are pale in comparison.
Korea is better wired than anywhere in America.
Then move to Korea.
Yeah, how dare someone point out that another country is better than ours at something!
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72276539
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join:2001-01-19
Atlanta, GA
| If broadband is so important that you have to state XXXXX is more wired then American then obviously its very important so movie to a broadband haven would be a good thing. Why should I pay for him to move? Im not the one stating Korea is better now am I?
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| doppler
join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY
1 edit | You don't get the point The reason Korea is so well wired is the fact they
care more about it than any bell or isp system
in the United States.
In 1990 all the baby bells promised to there local
governments. F.T.T.H. That's fiber to the home. The
percentage of wired homes was PROMISED to be 90% in
five years. It was hailed as the 5 year plan.
Well I am still waiting, it's 9 years over do. Did I
mention the bells wanted tax abatements to offset the
costs of FTTH. They got it. But nobody got there FTTH.
They only wired a small part. Just to show they were doing
something. Just recently the users of PA got screwed
by verizon. Verizon promised FTTH in PA. They got big
dollars to install it. And just this year. Verizon
said sorry it won't happen. Did everybody get rebates
for the extra payout to Verizon. Highly unlikely verizon
will be paying out ANYTHING. Except lately 40 Million fine
for level of service failure. I like that $5 rebate every
year. (fine wise). I don't like the shoddy service.
BTW, every time it rains, someone on the block gets repair
work done. My phone goes out, or bad humming. It's been
13 times in the last 18 months. They won't commit to cable
replacement. Why would they commit to FTTH?
Yea, I compared Korea with anywhere in the US. Think about
it. Korea is better wired than the US. In fact there are
many other countries better wired. The US is on the bottom
of the list. With the technology available in the US. I
think we should be on the top of the list not on the bottom.
As long as North Korea exists I would never think of going
to south Korea. WW-III, if it starts anywhere it's going
to be there.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| Re: You don't get the point said by doppler :
BTW, every time it rains, someone on the block gets repair work done. My phone goes out, or bad humming. It's been 13 times in the last 18 months.
Just as an aside, why would you continue to pay for such shoddy service? Get your number ported to a cell phone and be done with it.
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join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY
| Re: You don't get the point said by pnh102 :
said by doppler :
BTW, every time it rains, someone on the block gets repair work done. My phone goes out, or bad humming. It's been 13 times in the last 18 months.
Just as an aside, why would you continue to pay for such shoddy service? Get your number ported to a cell phone and be done with it.
Your being from PA, I think your worst off than my service.
I would be hounding my senators about the nice freebie
verizon got. As for my problems. I can't afford the
extra cellphone costs. And being a amateur radio
enthusiast I don't trust the landline being available.
Imagine this: Flight 800 went down not far from my home.
The Fire chief was smashing his cellphone on the hood of
the response car. Why?? Because he could not get a
clear channel. Cellphone are the first things to
go when things get bad. Even during the blackout of 2003.
Landline phones where up, cell sites were down.
But this is de tracking from the topic. For long Island and
NYC/NJ/CT areas black holes are rare. And the fact
everywhere else is screwed up. I blame the ISP's and baby
bells.
Parting thought. I know for a fact NYC has over capacity
of fiber optics. But they have the greatest cost to operate
even a basic T-1. Every time they ran 10 fiber lines from
point A to B. They didn't run just the ten they ran 100.
All that extra capacity is laying dormant. Verizon charges
$1200 a month for a full T-1. It really should be costing
$120 a month. Profit drives everything. That's the way it
works. Until the bells get hit with big fines for not
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Re: You don't get the point said by doppler :
Your being from PA, I think your worst off than my service.
I would be hounding my senators about the nice freebie
verizon got.
You do realize that the extra cash Verizon got was through a fee increase. Therefore, people who were not Verizon customers were not paying for service that Verizon never delivered. I, not being a Verizon customer, couldn't care less what Verizon does or does not do. All I do know though, is that if I was a Verizon customer and I was having continual problems with my landline as you describe, would drop them like a hot potato, especially if they refused to fix the problems.
Besides, Verizon is well on its way to putting itself out of business in PA with the way they still charge people for toll calls and other such services. They don't need the state's help for doing that.
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72276539
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join:2001-01-19
Atlanta, GA | ISP's have to have an ROI, a government doesn't. | |
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
| Could it be the land cost in NYC is so god damned high along with the taxes they have to recoup the money somehow? Could it be that its not the cost to run the fiber that is incredibly prohibitive, its the cost of maintaining wiring centers, co-location facilities and the manpower necessary to make things work in a high priced area? Naw, its none of that. Its all corporate greed, god forbid a publicly held for profit company dare try to make a profit! OH THE HUMANITY!
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zoom314
Superman
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
1 edit | Re: Sure sound like the problems with verizon dsl Most of the Baby Bells don't want to extend DSL into under served areas as They want to be Deregulated further and want to have No Competition outside of Cable and/or Satellite(from what I've read at least), At least Verizon(ex-GTE) is doing something other than doing a Sit-down strike like a spoiled toddler, It's spending Money and putting New Infrastructure in(New Central Offices with No Co-Location), They did in the City of Hesperia where I live. But like any investment, It just takes Time, Money and some Patience.
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