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Phil
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Will this work when using a third party ISP? I use DSL Extreme on Verizon's lines. I would love to ditch my land line, but wonder how this would work, being that I'm not using Verizon's DSL service.
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| Re: Will this work when using a third party ISP? said by Phil  :
I use DSL Extreme on Verizon's lines. I would love to ditch my land line, but wonder how this would work, being that I'm not using Verizon's DSL service.
I don't see CA listed as one of the 12 states that Verizon will allow dry pair DSL.
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| | vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Re: Will this work when using a third party ISP? said by Rob :
said by Phil :
I use DSL Extreme on Verizon's lines. I would love to ditch my land line, but wonder how this would work, being that I'm not using Verizon's DSL service.
I don't see CA listed as one of the 12 states that Verizon will allow dry pair DSL.
Also you cant get it unless you have VZ Cell phone service. That aint no naked DSL what a rip!
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join:2004-05-24
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| > Also you cant get it unless you have VZ Cell phone
> service. That aint no naked DSL what a rip!
This is not true. In an interview (somewhere... I gotta find it), they said that it wasn't required that you switch to Verizon Wireless. You could switch to ANY wireless carrier. They didn't mention VoIP, etc. | |
| | | | vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Re: Will this work when using a third party ISP? said by edelite :
> Also you cant get it unless you have VZ Cell phone
> service. That aint no naked DSL what a rip!
This is not true. In an interview (somewhere... I gotta find it), they said that it wasn't required that you switch to Verizon Wireless. You could switch to ANY wireless carrier. They didn't mention VoIP, etc.
The article says Verizon wireless, it doesnt make sense for them to allow switching to other wireless services. How would they even confirm it? And why would they care if you switch to Cingular or cancel POTS completly, that makes the same end result in their pocket book, zero:).
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dslsynch
join:2003-05-22
|  Re: Will this work when using a third party ISP?
I'm thinking...no."
hi kool moe,
think again and think yes.
i have had pots (local and ld) and adsl from a '3rd party' clec for almost a year and a half. i never had vz dsl, but had their pots only. after they laid me off and i went to work for their competition (a clec), i had my employer's pots and dsl installed on the same copper loop that formerly had my vz pots only.
the clec's dsl and local pots is free (an employee perk), every month. a $70 value, every month. even when i worked for vz, they would not give their own employees much of a break on dsl. they would give you $5 off their monthly price. and you didn't get free local calls either. you were lucky to get a small concession on that.
find a clec in your area and get the clec's pots and dsl. vz has to give the clec access to their loop; otherwise vz could not sell long distance service.
just like gene hackmen said to danzel williams in the sub movie 'crimson tide', when they were discussing nuke warfare...
"... yes sir, drop that fucker, twice..."
so there ya go drop vz twice; dsl and pots. they're not the only game in town anymore. | |
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dslsynch
join:2003-05-22
| Re: Will this work when using a third party ISP? hi moe,
i can tell you, as a field service tech for the clec i work for, we install lots of 'dsl only'/naked dsl.
what you're saying sounds about right, though. stick with what you have until other options become available... or your current contracts expire... or both. good luck and best wishes...
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dslsynch
join:2003-05-22 | oh yeah,
if i didn't mention it, this clec i'm talking about leases all it's loops/pairs directly from vz. | |
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Just Because
join:2003-01-11
Vernon, VT
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by dslsynch :
"i have had pots (local and ld) and adsl from a '3rd party' clec for almost a year and a half. i never had vz dsl, but had their pots only. after they laid me off and i went to work for their competition (a clec), i had my employer's pots and dsl installed on the same copper loop that formerly had my vz pots only.
the clec's dsl and local pots is free (an employee perk), every month. a $70 value, every month. even when i worked for vz, they would not give their own employees much of a break on dsl. they would give you $5 off their monthly price. and you didn't get free local calls either. you were lucky to get a small concession on that.
Hello, disgruntled ex-verizon employee. If you work for and are referring to National Mobile (Sovernet) I looked into getting their naked DSL and if you don't get a Dialtone line with them too the price is really high. Verizon DSL was cheaper and I didn't have to have a contract like Sovernet wanted me to commit to. So just because you have choices it doesn't mean that they are cheaper all the time. Sovernet wants you to Bundle their dialtone and DSL just like the rest of them. Don't get me wrong, I think Naked DSL is a great idea and should be made available to everyone! My point is, it isn't just the ILECs that want you to bundle.
And thats nice that you get DSL and dialtone for free each month thru your employer, god I wish I got that, but tell me, are your other benefits as good as they were with Verizon (medical, vacation, pension/401k))? I wouldn't know but I would guess not......I have a friend who works for VZ and he gets pretty good benefits, I think he gets discounted phone service but not free. (This portion Off Topic, sorry)
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dru
join:2000-09-14
Corona, CA
| I work for a Southern CA ISP. Verizon sent us a mysterious PDF document in November 2003 outlining a "trial" wireless number portability procedure. It only covered the original Bell Atlantic states, ie, no GTE states such as California or Florida; it didn't concern us directly. However, when I read it, it clearly meant they would be providing independent ISPs the ability to offer "Naked DSL". It was not stipulated, at least in that document, that any specific wireless carrier was required.
A week later, they sent another memo canceling the previous document and supposed trial. Some new program would be announced to take its place. That's the last we have heard (officially from Verizon), even though they apparently have been running the "trial" on the QT for themselves. | |
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